Dennis Allen not expecting to make any staff changes going into the Bye (2 Viewers)

[MJ in Calif]

It’ll come out. Yes, they pushed Sean out. They thought they had their man in house and Sean’s voice got too big. It wasn’t super messy but it happened. Sean politely said if you think you can’t do it without me be my guest. Payton had his issues but he was the key cog that moved this team.

Dude, put down the bottle, bong, or whatever it is your medicating with. Payton left on his own. It's well established. What evidence do you have to back any of this self-contrived story that the Saints organization pushed him out?

 

[latechsaint26]

YEA, even a blind squirrel fines a nut every now and then....

Once again, hard to blame Pete for the offense. People are open all over the place. We just have impatience at QB position.

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

How many times did he say "hey, look" ...?

Enough to make me throw up. Organization needs to man up and admit they made a mistake by retaining Allen and Carmichael.

 

[MarylandWHODAT]

Dennis Allen is not a head coach. Period. He is a decent DC but not a head coach. He is just regurgitating old Sean Payton lines. He has no identity nor original thought. He’s a C student. Average. That’s it and that’s all the Saints will be with him at the helm. I don’t see any fun, excitement, brotherhood, nothing from the Saints. They come in, play, win or lose, get paid, go home and have DA say he has to do better 10 weeks into the season. Loomis is to blame as well for holding on to the ghosts of Sean Payton. It’s not working.

This organization needs a new identity, a new mantra, a new everything. Top to bottom. It’s been said multiple times on podcasts, this board, X, everywhere that if things do not change, fans will leave and that equates to lost money. Dennis Allen is going to cost the Saints money and then and only then will they maybe listen. The problem is the Saints mentality is “we are in first place and it will come together” and that is going to kill them.

Fans have gone through elation with Payton, anger in 2021 & 2022 and now we are hitting the apathy phase with Allen and that’s when it becomes dangerous.

 

[Seapea]

 

[Saint Floyd]

Just keep doing what you’ve been doing, Denny.

 

[syracuse saint]

So you choose DA over Payton? I can see Payton having a huge ego but this seems dumb.

No!!! I loved CSP.

 

[BayouCajun]

I do not blame Dennis Allen for the failure of this team as much as I think everybody should be pointing the fingers at Micky Loomis who hired this clown D.A to start with plus has made way to many dumb personnel & contract decisions. I also think Jeff Ireland has been a failure also, as majority of his top drafts picks have been a disaster so far & think it time to send entire scouting Dept. packing after season is over.. They have #1 pick Trevor Penning who early in 2nd year sitting on the bench. Another #1 pick Payton Turner who has been out on IR more than he been on the Field. They always have a love fest every draft with RAS Scores of players coming out in draft, than if a player actually worth a crap on the college game tape. Thats a fact. as they bring up how high a players RAS score was after every draft. So far Saints have completed 10 games into the season & not one change has taking place to fix this disaster of a team by anybody in charge. Offense is still a major joke, and the Defense has steadily been going downhill along with the offense. We have an owner in Gayle Benson who you never hear a peep from & a GM who seems to always be AWOL, till he makes an appearance after the season to make B.S excuses to the local press. This Saints franchise seems to not have anybody being held accountable at any level of the organization. This shows that Sean Payton was one running everything & making all the decisions in this franchise and why things did not go south quicker.

 

[DirtyHarry1551]

Just try another play caller. And if the results are the same its the personal, but if the offense rolls then we have our answer. And if I am not mistaken, didn't the passing game coordinator call the plays in tbe preseason. It sure as hey can not be any worse then Pete is doing. With Pittsburgh and now Buffalo firing their OC's trying to fix their offense, we would have to be Simple Jack to keep doing the same damn thing week in and week out. 28 games into Pete as OC and we stink. Let's actually try to fix the problems because our window will be closed after this year. Jordan and Davis deserve better then this

 

[67Bndwagnfan]

So he not getting fired?

 

[strandedsaint]

It’ll come out. Yes, they pushed Sean out. They thought they had their man in house and Sean’s voice got too big. It wasn’t super messy but it happened. Sean politely said if you think you can’t do it without me be my guest. Payton had his issues but he was the key cog that moved this team.

B.S.

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

You’ve heard what the Saints want you to hear. Again, it wasn’t messy but the plan was always Allen. Sean leaving wasn’t an overnight thing. Him coming back 1 year later should tell you that.

You're just making things up.

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

Only if the new coach wants him on board.

I'm tired of DA, it's time to move on from him and hope our current defensive staff learned from him and know how to be more consistent.

 

[DaveXA]

I'm tired of DA, it's time to move on from him and hope our current defensive staff learned from him and know how to be more consistent.

I hear ya. I'm fine either way as long as we have a strong leader at HC.

 

[IceHot]

I sure hope he gets canned. Sooner than later would be better

I hope we never again become that type of organization.

Give every hire at least 2 seasons and fire nobody until the season is at an end. You will have plenty of time during the playoffs to find a qualified coach that is available...and when that day comes you will still have the credibility to attract a coach worthy of the ask.