Dennis Allen on Graham being inactive earlier in the season: “Let’s start focusing on what we need to do moving forward" (1 Viewer)

[NUSaintsfan]

Precisely why you have to return to Allen. You either get an immediate payout in year 3 or you cut ties. Or you cut ties now but you know that the next HC basically has to be given 2-3 years just to dig out of the hole and come even, and perhaps another year or 2 to start winning consistently.

As far as DA accepting something, he'd be wise to accept anything that prolongs his tenure as a HC. Can't let ego get in the way of what's best.

And what's best is him being paired with someone that allows him to just focus on the defensive side of the ball. Let's not forget the 1st two weeks of the season the defense was playing lights out, somewhere during that period DA likely had to start popping up in the offensive meetings etc. That took away from his time and attention in the defensive room and they faltered because of it. I also don't think DA isn't a detail oriented coach. Hell, how many coverage gaps have you seen in his tenure here? Sure it happens but it definitely isn't what it was prior to his arrival.

I don't think Loomis is the root of the problem because I don't think the current circumstance is a problem more than it's another p word ie process, and he understands that.

That's fair; I see your point about returning with Allen.

The more I think about it logically and take the emotion out of it, the more it makes sense to keep DA, purge the roster of bloated contracts of underperformers (including Saint for Life contracts) and set up for 2025.

As for ego, that's easier said than done. He doesn't recognize his weaknesses and that's easily discernable when he is post game winging it in the locker room. It's hard to listen to as a fan, never mind a player. If he understood he wasn't a dynamic speaker he'd simply state, "We won but we have some things to clean up. Schedule will be forthcoming. Let's bring it in." He doesn't do that though.

So if he cannot trust his defensive coaches to cover down on his absence what does that say about his ability to choose his staff let alone convey his guidance? Those were his choices for coaches.

I see your poor attention-to-detail (which has cost the team games and will continue to cost the team games) and will raise you lack of judgment and poor decision making as a HC/DC. One of many example is when he left 27 out on an island while GB targeted him every pass during their comback.

Loomis owns the process though as the GM does he not? Who promoted DA? Who added those contracts and underperforming FAs?

ML owns the macro level issues while DA owns the mico level issues.

 

[NUSaintsfan]

Precisely why you have to return to Allen. You either get an immediate payout in year 3 or you cut ties. Or you cut ties now but you know that the next HC basically has to be given 2-3 years just to dig out of the hole and come even, and perhaps another year or 2 to start winning consistently.

As far as DA accepting something, he'd be wise to accept anything that prolongs his tenure as a HC. Can't let ego get in the way of what's best.

And what's best is him being paired with someone that allows him to just focus on the defensive side of the ball. Let's not forget the 1st two weeks of the season the defense was playing lights out, somewhere during that period DA likely had to start popping up in the offensive meetings etc. That took away from his time and attention in the defensive room and they faltered because of it. I also don't think DA isn't a detail oriented coach. Hell, how many coverage gaps have you seen in his tenure here? Sure it happens but it definitely isn't what it was prior to his arrival.

I don't think Loomis is the root of the problem because I don't think the current circumstance is a problem more than it's another p word ie process, and he understands that.

The only person I think might be desperate enough to take the job would be Gruden and he would be an upgrade over DA. He had LV playing well and DC played solidly under him at QB.

If he doesn't perform, Loomis can be rectifying issues on the macro level and remove Gruden to set the next coach up for success.

Then again, something leads me to believe Gruden would be able to get more out of this group than DA ever could...E.V.E.R.

Edit: I didn't see your other post recommending the same thing.

 

[Saints 318]

Sad excuse

 

[SpeckKillerII]

I am blown away by how fast this franchise went from the Penthouse to the Outhouse!

 

[Snakehead]

Graham had an "episode" during training camp, who's to say that Graham was not brought back to the team to help him transition into retirement because maybe he was having some issues in his personal life.

Funny how people forget conveniently forget about this. I've posted a few times that they may keep him rostered for the medical care since NFL players only receive medical care paid by the NFL for 5 years after they retire. Keeping him rostered allows him current care and delays that 5 year clock. He's also a great mentor for the younger players/TEs.

I have people at work who are seeking help for significant medical/MH issues and some subordinates question why they have so many appointments, etc. I can't say what those appointments are for so I have to give vague answers and support my people while they get the help they need. I take it on as my responsibility to change the culture in the organization of why people are so worried about others appointments when those people are seeking the help they need. We can't tell people to get help and then not support them through the process which involves helping to change the stigma of the "That person has a lot of appointments". This is why so many veterans don't get the help they need while serving and then really struggle after they separate/retire because they don't want to be seen as someone who doesn't pull their weight because they have appointments to seek help for whatever the reason is.

With all that said, I can completely see why DA gave the answer he gave b/c it if it is something along these lines then it's nobody's forking business and they'll play JG when he's able to play.

 

[St. Geezy]

Funny how people forget conveniently forget about this. I've posted a few times that they may keep him rostered for the medical care since NFL players only receive medical care paid by the NFL for 5 years after they retire. Keeping him rostered allows him current care and delays that 5 year clock. He's also a great mentor for the younger players/TEs.

I have people at work who are seeking help for significant medical/MH issues and some subordinates question why they have so many appointments, etc. I can't say what those appointments are for so I have to give vague answers and support my people while they get the help they need. I take it on as my responsibility to change the culture in the organization of why people are so worried about others appointments when those people are seeking the help they need. We can't tell people to get help and then not support them through the process which involves helping to change the stigma of the "That person has a lot of appointments". This is why so many veterans don't get the help they need while serving and then really struggle after they separate/retire because they don't want to be seen as someone who doesn't pull their weight because they have appointments to seek help for whatever the reason is.

With all that said, I can completely see why DA gave the answer he gave b/c it if it is something along these lines then it's nobody's forking business and they'll play JG when he's able to play.

They’d simply give him money before burning a roster spot for this purpose.

 

[Snakehead]

They’d simply give him money before burning a roster spot for this purpose.

That would be the easy button.

 

[Kegger]

It continues to be a complete embarrassment that this coaching staff waited so long to use Jimmy. Inexcusable. But maybe Jimmy is just the spark the team needs to realize their potential.

 

[gregh]

Guess it's his way of admitting it was a mistake