Derek Carr - Why People Dislike Him (IMO) (1 Viewer)

[Dastheat_9]

Even more ridiculousness. I;ve seen Brees throw that same pass to MT many times in the same position and NO ONE has ever made the claim you are making . PLUS the pass was where ONLY MT could get it , any lower and the DB may have had a chance at it. Another SMH

I saw Bree’s throw the ball at his hands and helmet! If you think that is a good pass by a NFL QB. I now know the intelligence I am actually doing a back and forth too! I apologies to the Universe for just pointing out a few things. God bells your soul

 

[El Caliente]

Does it not start and stop with him eating Chipotle on his first day in New Orleans?

 

[Elvis]

With each new DA thread I read, the more I feel like pounding my head into a wall. It's been a long time since the SSF has felt so hopeless over the direction of our Saints; and rightfully so! None of us ever wanted to see our team so ravaged by poor leadership and team performance. And as badly as we want it fixed, we all know that there is nothing personally that any of us can really do about it. Even when we win, it feels like we are still losers! And the reality of this dumpster fire is making me crazy!

Ever since we had a taste of the NFL 'good life', it's really been hard to accept going back to the starting line. I (for one) no longer expect to win football games... even against the weaker teams. In fact, most of us are predicting only misery for as long as certain members of the staff & team have prominent roles in the future of the Saints. And I believe that we are right! The current leadership is dreadful and it leaves us with nothing left to do but to complain about what we no longer are as a football team.

I'll admit, I haven't been this pessimistic about the Saints since before the Mora years. No one expected the Saints to crumble to the state we now find the team. Especially with what we previously believe to be a pretty good supply of talent on both sides of the ball. But if we truly have the talent; then we lack the leadership. If the leadership is there; then the players simply can't be as good as we thought. Personally I think the real issue is a little of both. But the sad part is that these things may not change anytime soon. It's a miserable feeling... and I just wasn't ready for it.

I'll also admit that I was in favor of grabbing Carr to be our new QB. I also didn't think that Grupe was a bad choice to be our kicker. I didn't really see enough of Hedley to know if we were getting a good punter or not. I expected to see a better running game, an improved pass rush, and a reliable receiving corps that would ensure that offensive drives would continue all the way to the endzone. With our cupcake schedule in 2023 I expected to see the return of 40-burger victories galore. Instead our goal each week is the hope of breaking the 20 point barrier. DA keeps rolling snake eyes. What a collapse!

All I can say at this point is that I really want the Saints to turn back into a contender. I want our team to have a chance to win decisively in every game they play. I want whatever it takes to make the Saints a winning organization that we can all be proud of and can compete for championships again! This kind of losing can no longer be an acceptable. Other teams have been able to return to the glory they formerly basked in. I want that again, and I want it sooner than later. And I know that you folks want it too! Is anyone else as miserable about the state of our team as I am feeling right now?

That was a solid read. I feel largely the same way. I can handle losing because of subpar players. The draft is always a gamble and even the good GMs don't have a great record picking them. Over the years I think Ireland has done a fine job scouting and has found some real gems. Free agents aren't always a good fit either but a good GM at least has an idea as to what vision the coaches have for a player before signing them.

What I can't handle is a bad coaching staff. They are the foundation of everything the team does from camp until the end of the season. They are the task masters, the researchers and the teachers. They are responsible for getting the team ready to play. When they don't do their jobs, nobody else can either. That is why AK's interview at his locker was so jarring for me. He knows they need to get better, he wants the coaches to tell them how and he's not getting that even when explicitly asking for it. Nobody is getting it. We only have one unit that seems ready to play every week and that is Special Teams. Sure they made some bad choices when it came to kicker and punter, but that unit generally looks competent week to week. The offense and defense 3/4 of the way through the season both look like generic Payton preseason units. No match up specific game plans, just boring base formations every single game. It drives me insane to watch the absolute lack of creativity.

So, I will join you in being miserable for as long as the mistake of keeping the remnants of Payton's staff remain. He WAS the system, they were simply doing what they were told and don't have any fresh ideas of their own. Loomis owns this mess. He is the only one with the power to fix it. At this point, he can go too if he can't do the job that everyone knows needs to be done.

 

[Dastheat_9]

I thought it was getting better. Then I watched the game yesterday

 

[Elvis]

Great pass Carr! Let’s make our Wide Reciver jump when 2 defenders are near on a 7 yard pass.

Are you kidding with this? THIS is the play MT got hurt that everyone is calling a hospital ball? I see throws, catches and hits like that every single week. That is football. Hate the guy all you want, but that is standard football when players can't get separation from defenders.

 

[BarBar]

Does it not start and stop with him eating Chipotle on his first day in New Orleans?

Sums up his entire tenure here, really.

He is just here to throw passes and collect a paycheck. He doesn't want to hear any critical words either.

 

[solarbear88]

Things I like about Carr
1. He will play through injuries.
2. When healthy he can make all the throws
3. Yells at lazy and stupid people when they repeatedly screw up - the Oline was just beyond awful this weekend

Things I don't like
1. He's expensive
2. He has not played 4 good quarters in a row all season
3. He panics in the pocket and checks down too much and moves around too much
4. His passes seem to lack accuracy and there is no RAC happening
5. Eye liner
6. Seems phoney in interviews... He is like the arse kisser at work
7. Footwork is terrible
8. HE IS NOT USING HIS PROGRESSIONS
9. His numbers this year are terrible
10. His contract stops us from making improvements

 

[silverbullet]

This is about as MORONIC a post as I've seen almost as the TROLL that said his palette was trash. You DON"T know the guy but YOU publicly TRASH his character SMH

Yeah, because everyone from his teammates to the media just rave about the guy right? Only person that seems to like him is our all time losingest coach.

 

[Elvis]

Yeah, because everyone from his teammates to the media just rave about the guy right? Only person that seems to like him is our all time losingest coach.

Outside of AK, Taysom and sometimes Taylor and Adebo, what players are people raving about on this team? What players have shown growth in the last 2 years? How many more have regressed? On offense we see lazy routes, dropped balls, bad blocking, bad timing and just general poor execution across the board. On defense, we see bad gap discipline and tackling (6th in rushing yards allowed), nobody getting to the QB (29th in sacks).

You're singling out one player when almost nobody else plays well either. When nobody plays well, it's a coaching problem. This isn't a defense of Carr, he IS playing poorly. I just can't accept that the focus of this years problems be on him. These problems already existed and he's just the latest punching bag because he's new and there were overblown expectation that he was going to move the team forward regardless of the other glaring problems.

 

[silverbullet]

Outside of AK, Taysom and sometimes Taylor and Adebo, what players are people raving about on this team? What players have shown growth in the last 2 years? How many more have regressed? On offense we see lazy routes, dropped balls, bad blocking, bad timing and just general poor execution across the board. On defense, we see bad gap discipline and tackling (6th in rushing yards allowed), nobody getting to the QB (29th in sacks).

You're singling out one player when almost nobody else plays well either. When nobody plays well, it's a coaching problem. This isn't a defense of Carr, he IS playing poorly. I just can't accept that the focus of this years problems be on him. These problems already existed and he's just the latest punching bag because he's new and there were overblown expectation that he was going to move the team forward regardless of the other glaring problems.

Teams take on the personality of the coach and QB who should be the primary leaders. Ours are both clowns who no one respects or likes.

 

[St.Freethinker]

Carr has plenty of flaws, but I think he gets way too much hate and blame.

Drew Brees ruined this franchise forever.

He is the gold standard for competitiveness, leadership, hard work, dedication, and winning.

No one else will ever live up to Drew, and some segment of our fanbase will have vitriol for whoever we have under center, because they too, will fall short of the standards that Drew set.

You're wrong. This has nothing to do with the "Brees standard" and everything to do with... 150 MILLION DOLLARS! Seriously! When your team signs a QB for $150 MILLION!!!!!!! you would expect better play. I think we could get better QB play off of a practice squad QB. I would be disappointed with his play if we had signed him for the league minimum, let alone.... $150 MILLION! It's just grossly pathetic.

ONE
HUNDRED
FIFTY
MILLION
DOLLARS
!!!!!!!

 

[DSnfla]

Does it not start and stop with him eating Chipotle on his first day in New Orleans?

If you really believe that then you're worse off than I thought SMH How INSANELY ridiculous

 

[DSnfla]

I thought it was getting better. Then I watched the game yesterday

How about a film study by a guy that ACTUALLY played games in the NFL
And how about one where he actually HAD a decent coach

 

[DSnfla]

Yeah, because everyone from his teammates to the media just rave about the guy right? Only person that seems to like him is our all time losingest coach.

Yeah and the only real reason Davante Adams signed with the Raiders is to play with Carr. SMH