Elon Musk makes $43 Billion offer for private buyout of Twitter (14 Viewers)

[guidomerkinsrules]

I don't understand veneration of CEO's or politicians.

money and power

 

[saintmdterps]

money and power

Addicts.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

money and power

and we just thought he was singing abount gangsteres..

 

[St. Widge]

How do you explain those occasions when people truly give of themselves without expecting anything in return? I've done that more than a few times in my life. People are more than capable of selfless acts.

I don't think those situations actually exist. At a minimum people feel good about themselves when they do things for others. And there often are benefits beyond what is obvious at the moment including social standing in the community.

 

[St. Widge]

That's an absolutely insane, off the charts level of cynicism. I can't imagine going through life actually believing that. Sorry for whatever has happened in your life that's led you to that point. Genuinely.

I mean, my life really isn't bad and I've had no experiences that anyone would consider beyond the norm, i.e. parents died and had some houses flood in hurricanes. No abuse, particularly untimely deaths, etc. The worst thing that has happened to me is that I see people lying for money several times a month. Sometimes more.

But it's more my observation of the world around me rather than anything that has happened to me or anyone close to me.

 

[HoustonSaint68]

I don't think those situations actually exist. At a minimum people feel good about themselves when they do things for others. And there often are benefits beyond what is obvious at the moment including social standing in the community.

Ok, so that's all fine and good, but that's why it's merely an introductory philosophical concept.

The next step proceeds from: "ok, so what?". The "conclusion" that humans do everything from a big-bang-point of self-interest gives zero insight into the deeper question of whether human beings are inherently good, bad, totally malleable, or something else altogether.

But, a different thread.

 

[St. Widge]

Ok, so that's all fine and good, but that's why it's merely an introductory philosophical concept.

The next step proceeds from: "ok, so what?". The "conclusion" that humans do everything from a big-bang-point of self-interest gives zero insight into the deeper question of whether human beings are inherently good, bad, totally malleable, or something else altogether.

But, a different thread.

Sure and there are many philosophy, psychology, and neuroscience books and papers written on these subjects. I think on the whole that literature indicates humans are at core self-interested. And, to some extent, the entire concept of "good" and 'bad" is a human construct created by society to control our baser instincts (largely by the mechanism of religion), which goes into all kinds of metaphysical questions about whether Rationalism or Empiricism is correct. But yes, beyond the scope of this thread.

 

[antipop]

That's an absolutely insane, off the charts level of cynicism. I can't imagine going through life actually believing that. Sorry for whatever has happened in your life that's led you to that point. Genuinely.

i used to think i was pretty cynical...then i spent countless hours playing video games with Widge....

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

I don't think those situations actually exist. At a minimum people feel good about themselves when they do things for others. And there often are benefits beyond what is obvious at the moment including social standing in the community.

I think there was a Friend's episode about this.