Article Exploring How the Saints Could Trade Up for Cam Ward

It also remains to be seen how competitive the Commanders are after this year. The Bengals got to the Super Bowl once early on with Burrow. They've not been doing very well since then. They didn't even have to give away extra picks in the draft. The same thing happened with the Dolphins and Marino.

If the goal is to build a long term competitive team, trading a bunch of high picks to trade into the top 10 is not the best route to go. It may help for a year or two, but those lost picks start to adversely affect the over all team and Super Bowls are won by at least 22 players, not a single QB.
Also Wash had an easy schedule. They also until the playoffs one beat 1 or 2 teams with a winning record. I expect Wash to come down to earth some , their schedule is way harder in 25
 
Our 25 1st, 26 1st and Olave and it’s a deal. I think the team needs a lot but if Kellen believes this is the guy, do it. Franchise QBs are elusive. We’d probably have to give a 2nd or 3rd too. I hate punting on Olave but his propensity for the head injuries likely makes him expendable. Also, he’s getting close to the point where we will have to commit to his 5th year or extend him. I’m not sure he’s worth that risk or cost.
 
Our 25 1st, 26 1st and Olave and it’s a deal. I think the team needs a lot but if Kellen believes this is the guy, do it. Franchise QBs are elusive. We’d probably have to give a 2nd or 3rd too. I hate punting on Olave but his propensity for the head injuries likely makes him expendable. Also, he’s getting close to the point where we will have to commit to his 5th year or extend him. I’m not sure he’s worth that risk or cost.
I'm sure the Saints would love that deal, but I don't think the Titans would accept it.
 
No more than drafting them in the top 10 magically makes them better.

What the data suggests is that the cost to a team to trade up to get a top 10 QB cancels out any advantage gain by getting a QB in the top 10, because it negatively impacts the overall quality of the team. Teams win and lose games collectively, the QB does not win or lose games all by themselves.
Picking a player in the top 10 that doesn’t belong there won’t turn them into a top 10 talent. I believe that Ward is good enough to be drafted #1 overall, and apparently I’m not alone. It’s not without risk…but the success from that draft slot has been relatively high
 
It's silly season, so I'll play along. If I'm the Titans I don't want to trade all the way back to 9. I can make a deal with NYG and still get one of Carter/Hunter/Graham. So I'd tell the Saints to go get NE's pick at 4 and come back with an offer.

That said, everything that the Titans are NOT doing at QB this offseason makes me think they'll stay put and pick Cam.

Or you make the deal with New Orleans then use a small part of that ammunition to move back up the board. We’ve seen that happen before.

That being said, I don’t think the leap from 9 to 1 is worth it for us. Too much would have to be relinquished for a non-sure fire, elite prospect that likely wouldn’t be ranked as high as he is in most other draft years.

He’s a guy you go from 9 to 6 to go grab…not from 9 to 1. You only go from 9 to 1 for the cant miss, prodigy type QB that the current team with the number 1 overall pick happens to not need to draft.

If Tennessee with their precarious QB situation is not drafting this QB and ends up wanting to trade the pick, it to me says something about the value of the player in relation to the pick.
 
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As long as Mickey continues to build this team with the ceiling of winning a terrible division then you can kiss any pipe dream of getting a franchise QB. No team is going to pass up on the opportunity of getting a franchise QB to another team.

Until this current operation fails in 2-3 years then we will just be spinning our wheels with no plan except for trying to save jobs by stringing together as many wins as they can squeak out with no payoff.
 
A team doesn't have to trade into the top 10 to draft a QB good enough to contribute to a Super Bowl win.
How many Super Bowls were won with a QB your describing? I can think of Dilfer with Ravens... Eagles redhead from North Dakota forgot his name but he was drafted in the top 10 won a super bowl then disappeared from the league...
Your right it can be done with a QB that is good enough to contribute to a Super Bowl win.... Sounds like you don't want a Franchise QB your happy with mediocre
 
Since the speculation started, I think about what it would cost the Saints to move up and select Miami's Cam Ward with the top pick. Here's what I came up with. Enjoy!!

Disclaimer: This is pure speculation by me; I give it a 30% chance of happening.
There’s zero speculation on this.
 
I'm all for it if Moore fully believes that's his guy and our franchise QB for the next decade+. I would be a bit disappointed however if he didn't end up being, say a top 8 QB much more consistently then not.

I like his character though. He'll be easy to root for. But I also will always dream of a "Nuss and Moore Nuss" trifecta. (I should TM that)
 
Need a comparison of how many QB's, drafted in the top 10 during that same time period, that never got close to winning a Super Bowl to get any meaningful statistical comparison.

Also, need a comparison of how many Super Bowls during that period, 1967 to 1989, were won by QB's drafted in the top 10 and QB's not drafted in the top 10. That's the only way to get any meaningful statistical comparison. Can't just look at the Super Bowls won by top 10 drafted QB's. That's not meaningful data without a comparison.

Did you not see the request form? The poster only wanted the draft spots of the QB's I listed.

If you want to cast a wider net, add categories and variables, and do a macro-comp, then good news, AI can probably help you.

Otherwise, I charge $199.99/hr for historical football research. I take venmo, krugerrands, and prison cigarettes.
 
Giving up that much capitol for a QB that would likely be at absolute best QB2 off the board just about any other year seems a bit crazy to me. Ward isn't a generational talent at QB. Not by a long shot. Next year alone will likely have 3 or 4 QB's in the draft better than him. It would be far more beneficial just to trade away #9 for ammo in next year's draft and take a QB in 2026 draft then to give up a kings ransom for a QB who may not even be among the 4 best next year.
No body thought Mahommes was either… until he was… after being picked at #10. Any fan pretending they can tell which QB will be good in the NFL or not is delusional. If Moore thinks Ward is him and thinks the compensation is worth it, I have no problem with the trade.

I’d actually like it more if Carr started all 2025 giving Ward a chance to learn. It’s a travesty how so many promising young QBs are just flat out abused by being thrust into the starting role before they’re ready. Give me a situation like Love or Rodgers in GB any day of the week over forcing a young QB to cut his teeth in year one.
 

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