Falcons TE coach Kevin Koger declines to interview for Saints OC position (110 Viewers)

[No2DC]

I don’t think it’s that. I think Nussmeir is OC and Staley is DC. However, b4 they can hire both they have to comply w/ Rooney Rule.

No surprise both initial candidates are black.

Such is why I hate this rule, ends up being a slap in the face to minority candidates. People know who they want to hire, let them hire them right off. Forcing them to go this route only annoys both parties and it’s disingenuous

It has become a joke at this point. I mean, posters routinely mention it like taxes or jury duty now. If a person is black or considered a person of color, the first assumption is not that they are being considered; the team is just checking an HR box.

 

[Rouxble]

I would love for there to be a way for younger position coaches from the NFL and college to get exposure to team executives. Like have events where they do a speed dating type thing where they get to know each other a little to get impressions of their football acumen and histories. They could choose 1/4 of GMs, HCs, OCs, DCs, etc. each year and do it on a rotating basis so that everyone is getting exposure to everyone with the fear of tampering with other teams.

The NFL does have an accelerator program that is similar to what you’re describing:

NFL's accelerator program gives minority coaches optimism that new system works

Getting lessons on how to manage a crisis and deal with the media will help Houston quarterbacks coach Jerrod Johnson and New York Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka when and if they interview for NFL head coaching jobs.

apnews.com

 

[No2DC]

I have a theory on why black coaches haven’t had great success historically and I hope people are open to it.

A coach is typically a father/paternal figure. The NFL is majority black, and it’s also a physical passionate sport, the players have to be reigned in a bit.

If you were a black kid, that didn’t grow up w/ your dad In the home, and suddenly around your teenage years he appears and tries to assert some level of control or dominance, would you respect it, or reject it.

History suggest rejection. No one rejects a black man’s authority more than a black child that didn’t grow up w/ many black father figures around. He doesn’t relate to him and thus there was an entire generation of black players that simply rejected the leadership of other black men.

It’s a generational thing, it’s a wound, and it takes time to heal. Is it healing? Absolutely, there are more successful black coaches and HC’s in the the NFL and college than b4 and that’s not because of the Rooney rule, it’s because they are having success connecting because fewer black men are incarcerated or dead than before. They are more present for child rearing and thus the newer generation that’s coming in has more respect for them.

They see them more they are familiar w/ them.

As time progresses more black coaches will continue to be successful and ultimately people are hired on their potential for success…not just color.

It just happened that the coaches that were must successful w/ connecting w/ the black players happened to be the white.

In theory, my theory. But that theory has a happy ending…it just takes time.

That's a loaded statement because I would argue success cannot be accurately assessed without a balance of opportunity. If one can demonstrate that many one-and-done HCs are black, that counters impact the success rate. What happened in NE and LV this year is a reflection of that.
Obviously, if you have a losing season, getting fired should not be a surprise. However, black coaches in a first-time HC are rarely in an environment of patience.
You cannot force people to hang out in places they do not hang- out, and the NFL is a reflection of society.
Due to the broader political discussions that are happening in the US , I think that's all I can say on this type of board without wandering into politics and history.

 

[Elvis]

The NFL does have an accelerator program that is similar to what you’re describing:

NFL's accelerator program gives minority coaches optimism that new system works

Getting lessons on how to manage a crisis and deal with the media will help Houston quarterbacks coach Jerrod Johnson and New York Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka when and if they interview for NFL head coaching jobs.

apnews.com

I didn't mean for only minority candidates though, I meant for all young position coaches from the NFL and college. The NFL is a black dominant sport and I don't believe head coaches and GMs are racist despite some emails from a certain former Raiders coach. The team owners I question a bit more, but not the people working together day in and day out on the football side of things. With so many former players from every level of the game looking to remain a part of it, there is going to be a large number of minority candidates among them. A huge part of bringing guys up through the ranks in general is getting exposure to them. I also think that as older coaches and GMs are replaced by a younger generation that the racial divide will reduce as well. Or maybe I'm dreaming. But I like to think I'm not.