N/S Forgive me for saying this, but the Falcons 2024 Quarterback move is GENIUS! (10 Viewers)

[SweetT]

can't plan for the littany of injuries we had. My hope was alwaya that Rattler would have the ability to wait and develop for at least a year. I don't see where what we did was anything different from them other than they had a higher draft pick to access one of the top tier QB's.

I mentioned this in the thread about Cousins being released. I said that the Falcons and ourselves, took a sorta similar approach to our future with a young QB.
They got a QB in the 1st. We took one in the 5th.
Both Penix and Rattler can be good starters going forward.

 

[SweetT]

Giving Cousins that much money instead of Lamar Jackson when they had the chance was indeed a very, very bad decision. However, I give them props for moving on instead of doubling down on a bad decision. The Saints are currently the type of team to double down on a bad decision. At least that what it appeared like until the owner got involved. I'm hopeful the front office has had a wake up call.

If that was the case, then we are 100 X more stupid for not drafting Lamar, and getting our franchise QB for free

 

[RaginCajun83]

If that was the case, then we are 100 X more stupid for not drafting Lamar, and getting our franchise QB for free

I’m blindly faithful to Brees but Saints screwed up this franchise for years when they didn’t draft a replacement to Brees in the 1st round when they had the chance

 

[sainthood]

There is zero reason to sign Kirk Cousins to a four year $180 million contract with $100 million guaranteed and then draft Michael Pennix in the top ten unless you found out something injury wise about Cousins after you signed him. Whatever injury issues Kirk had did not seem to linger beyond game one. It is cap stupidity. Hire a quarterback coach. You do not pay a starting quarterback contract to someone you intend to start for a half a season and then be a mentor. That is not genius. It is a byproduct of indecisiveness injurious to managing a horrible franchise that deserves to be a dumpster fire.

 

[Bill]

can't plan for the littany of injuries we had. My hope was alwaya that Rattler would have the ability to wait and develop for at least a year. I don't see where what we did was anything different from them other than they had a higher draft pick to access one of the top tier QB's.

You're going to have a tough time selling me on the idea that our plan was to replace Carr down the stretch of this season with one of our young backup QBs as our blueprint for the future.

You are correct to say that our season was derailed by an unimaginable number of injuries at most of the key positions on our team. But the Saints were looking at Carr as being the guy in the foreseeable future. He would not have been benched for Haener or Rattler no matter how ineffective Carr may have become.

The Falcons picked Penix because they anticipated Cousins being only a temporary solution to their QB issues. The Saints will be riding with Carr next year (until he gets injured again) unless by some miracle Rattler turns into the second coming of Fran Tarkenton. Other than that, the Saints have no plan.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

I mentioned this in the thread about Cousins being released. I said that the Falcons and ourselves, took a sorta similar approach to our future with a young QB.
They got a QB in the 1st. We took one in the 5th.
Both Penix and Rattler can be good starters going forward.

Yeah, I think the decision by the Falcons had potential to look bad if Cousins played up to his contract and Penix already at 25yrs of age would have had to sit 2-3 years. Lucky for them that wasn't the case but, in the 2024 draft thread i mentioned. The Saints scratched off their lottery ticket for $1 the Falcons got a $20 dollar ticket. Both potentially have a max value of 100k.

We just got our cheaper.

You're going to have a tough time selling me on the idea that our plan was to replace Carr down the stretch of this season with one of our young backup QBs as our blueprint for the future.

You are correct to say that our season was derailed by an unimaginable number of injuries at most of the key positions on our team. But the Saints were looking at Carr as being the guy in the foreseeable future. He would not have been benched for Haener or Rattler no matter how ineffective Carr may have become.

The Falcons picked Penix because they anticipated Cousins being only a temporary solution to their QB issues. The Saints will be riding with Carr next year (until he gets injured again) unless by some miracle Rattler turns into the second coming of Fran Tarkenton. Other than that, the Saints have no plan.

I won't because that's not what I'm selling.

Just simply that the Falcons needed a succession plan and already knew Kirk wasn't the future. They used the highest draft pick on a guy that could succeed him ASAP. I think with us, we weren't looking to immediately replace Carr but also realized that we needed a succession plan, just not maybe this year. So we used a 5th on a QB.

Same thing, just different levels and perhaps maybe a lower expectation due to what as invested. I guess you could say their sense of urgency was higher, but the money they paid also doesn't suggest they had plans of of replacing Kirk this year either. Just the way the chips fell. However, if you believe that statement to be true then I'll likely end this here.

 

[Bill]

There is zero reason to sign Kirk Cousins to a four year $180 million contract with $100 million guaranteed and then draft Michael Pennix in the top ten unless you found out something injury wise about Cousins after you signed him. Whatever injury issues Kirk had did not seem to linger beyond game one. It is cap stupidity. Hire a quarterback coach. You do not pay a starting quarterback contract to someone you intend to start for a half a season and then be a mentor. That is not genius. It is a byproduct of indecisiveness injurious to managing a horrible franchise that deserves to be a dumpster fire.

'A King's Ransom' is the going rate these days to sign a veteran free agent quarterback these days. But whenever they discovered that Kirk was a jerk, they decided to find their real future QB and make him their starter at the time of the season when all the chips are now on the table.

The Falcons may fall flat on their faces in the weeks ahead. But they may also have a new skillset that will be much harder for the opponents to gameplan for with Penix under center.

 

[Saint Spud]

Are they winning the Super Bowl?

If not, they spent a ton of $ they could’ve otherwise used on building a foundation around Penix in coming years.

Not sure I’d call that genius but IDK.

 

[Saint KayBee]

Jesus christ not this again.

 

[SweetT]

Are they winning the Super Bowl?

If not, they spent a ton of $ they could’ve otherwise used on building a foundation around Penix in coming years.

Not sure I’d call that genius but IDK.

Not entirely correct. Kirk got $90 million at signing.
$50 million bonus, plus his 2025/2025 cap hit upfront.
That money is already paid out to Kirk. It’s not spilling over to 2026. So they will have money to spend.
They have a really good group of young players already around Penix, who is on a rookie contract.
This is not a case where they have a depleted roster. They already have talent that can ascend into their primes.

 

[SweetT]

Yeah, I think the decision by the Falcons had potential to look bad if Cousins played up to his contract and Penix already at 25yrs of age would have had to sit 2-3 years. Lucky for them that wasn't the case but, in the 2024 draft thread i mentioned. The Saints scratched off their lottery ticket for $1 the Falcons got a $20 dollar ticket. Both potentially have a max value of 100k.

We just got our cheaper.

I won't because that's not what I'm selling.

Just simply that the Falcons needed a succession plan and already knew Kirk wasn't the future. They used the highest draft pick on a guy that could succeed him ASAP. I think with us, we weren't looking to immediately replace Carr but also realized that we needed a succession plan, just not maybe this year. So we used a 5th on a QB.

Same thing, just different levels and perhaps maybe a lower expectation due to what as invested. I guess you could say their sense of urgency was higher, but the money they paid also doesn't suggest they had plans of of replacing Kirk this year either. Just the way the chips fell. However, if you believe that statement to be true then I'll likely end this here.

Exactly right.
I love the analogy about the lottery tickets. Beautiful way to describe it

 

[SweetT]

I’m blindly faithful to Brees but Saints screwed up this franchise for years when they didn’t draft a replacement to Brees in the 1st round when they had the chance

That was so weird. Everyone assumed we were taking Lamar. We were like “Nah we are good”, “Let’s trade up for that DE Swimmer on SR was talking about”.
Seriously man, what were we doing?

 

[Eeyore]

That's the rub w/ me re Penix...Penix wasn't raw, Penix was polished, his only issue was that he was a little bent/bruised, but Penix always was ready to take charge when called upon.

We still talking about football?

 

[Bill]

Are they winning the Super Bowl?

If not, they spent a ton of $ they could’ve otherwise used on building a foundation around Penix in coming years.

Not sure I’d call that genius but IDK.

Without picking up Cousins, Penix would have been thrown to the dogs in Week 1 hoping that he could catch on quickly enough to put them on a path to the division crown and a top four seed. Without having an experienced QB to start the season, it's hard to imagine that Penix would have the Falcons at the top of the division, and by this stage of the season he could have been out with an injury and/or possibly missing some time. And if that happened, then they would likely have some kid that was sitting on a practice squad somewhere trying to lead the Falcons into the postseason. But instead they have a healthy quarterback who has had time to develop under an experienced veteran and is now ready to show the league what he can do without the opponents having a lot of film on how best they can stop him.

Does this 'Penix Plan' get them to the Superbowl? I certainly hope not. But either way all that 'foundation building' is off to a much better start with Atlanta looking like the team to beat in the NFC South in 2025.

 

[Winter]

Dude didn't even throw a TD pass and we're saying he's their next franchise QB? They had 2 pick sixes and 2 Bijan TDs againts the Giants... They won by a lot and I heard Penix didn't look bad, but one game against arguably the worst team in the league doesn't mean the Falcons are set for a run and Penix is going to ball out down the stretch.