Future WR core (8 Viewers)

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Gotta draft one, all things equal Olave/Shaheed have struggled to stay healthy game to game last couple years.

MVS bring a Devery/Meachem feel when paired w/ Shaheed but not much behind Olave.

I am still intrigued by Bub Means since he’s the prototype X for this scheme.

He’ll potentially be available for Giants, remainder of season is about who stands out among that group

 

[GeneHansen]

I see OLine and DLine as still being our biggest needs going into next year but WR could certainly be up there too given Olave's status.

TE is also still a bit of a need as well, which is why I think LSU's Mason Taylor would be worth consideration. Currently projected as the 3rd best TE in the class, he's shown to be a good blend of receiver as well as blocker and at 6'5 255, has the size to be a blocking asset at the next level.

Current rankings mean he's sure to be a 2nd round pick with a slight chance at early 3rd round. Unfortunately, I don't think we have a 2nd round pick anymore, making it doubtful he'd be in a position for us to grab him.

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[3ParStillDriver]

I’m not planning on Olave. But I want to re-sign MVS. If we can get a possession receiver in the draft or FA to add to Shaheed and MVS I think we’ll be good.

Possession receiver's aren't the FOTM type of receiver right now. It's field stretchers with separation. It fits into the whole narrative of a vertical passing attack with a scrambling QB that can run the ball once the defense is stretched.

That's not Derek Carr nor am I making an argument against. Just saying that the odds of possession receiver falling in the draft are currently better then the odds of a field stretching WR falling in the draft.

 

[SammyIsGod]

Here's a random top ten list of free agent wide receivers after this season. I'm sure someone else can dig more, but just a quick Google:

1) Tee Higgins, Cincinnati Bengals
2) Amari Cooper, Buffalo Bills
3) Chris Godwin, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4) Stefon Diggs, Houston Texans
5) DeAndre Hopkins, Kansas City Chiefs
6) Diontae Johnson, Baltimore Ravens
7) Hollywood Brown, Kansas City Chiefs
8) Keenan Allen, Chicago Bears
9) Elijah Moore, Cleveland Browns
10) Mike Williams, Pittsburgh Steelers

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-free-agents-by-position/

 

[VinSaint]

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Sweet! I don't know why I thought we had given up our 2nd but I gladly stand corrected. Thanks.

 

[Fiyo]

Corps - they are part of an army, not the middle of an apple.

And the corps is weak without a dominant #1 (which Olave barely was anyway). Shaheed and MVS are fine at #2/#3. The others are just guys. Despite glaring needs elsewhere, we will need to draft a WR.

Thank you!!

 

[VinSaint]

Here's a random top ten list of free agent wide receivers after this season. I'm sure someone else can dig more, but just a quick Google:

1) Tee Higgins, Cincinnati Bengals
2) Amari Cooper, Buffalo Bills
3) Chris Godwin, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4) Stefon Diggs, Houston Texans
5) DeAndre Hopkins, Kansas City Chiefs
6) Diontae Johnson, Baltimore Ravens
7) Hollywood Brown, Kansas City Chiefs
8) Keenan Allen, Chicago Bears
9) Elijah Moore, Cleveland Browns
10) Mike Williams, Pittsburgh Steelers

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-free-agents-by-position/

Good list. Here's my personal opinion on it:

1. Higgins - ideal pickup but will also command the most money in FA, which probably doesn't bode well for us given our cap situation
2. Cooper - might be worth consideration for the right price but not interested in overpaying for him
3. Godwin - so underrated as a WR but the injuries he's had the last few years scare me. For that reason, pass.
4. Diggs - from what I know from his time with the Bills, too much of a head case/drama queen. Pass.
5. Hopkins - can flash his old self at times but largely past his prime. Possible consideration but only for the right price.
6. Johnson - don't know much about him to have an opinion.
7. Brown - I don't see the difference between him and any of the WR's in our room not named Olave, Shaheed or MVS. Pass
8. Allen - past his prime. Pass
9. Moore - see 7. Pass
10. Williams - don't know enough about him as a pro to have an opinion.

 

[Saint Greg]

Possession receiver's aren't the FOTM type of receiver right now. It's field stretchers with separation. It fits into the whole narrative of a vertical passing attack with a scrambling QB that can run the ball once the defense is stretched.

That's not Derek Carr nor am I making an argument against. Just saying that the odds of possession receiver falling in the draft are currently better then the odds of a field stretching WR falling in the draft.

We've already got two of those in this scenario. We need a guy who makes the 3rd and 10 catch.

 

[St. Widge]

Corps - they are part of an army, not the middle of an apple.

And the corps is weak without a dominant #1 (which Olave barely was anyway). Shaheed and MVS are fine at #2/#3. The others are just guys. Despite glaring needs elsewhere, we will need to draft a WR.

Agreed. I wouldn't count on Pettis for much of anything. He has some talent and I thought he was going to be really good coming out of Washington, but he's never put it together and isn't likely to at 29.

As far as the rest, I think we have three #2 or #3 WRs in Olave, Shaheed, and MVS (assuming he comes back). Olave is on the border for a #1 WR, but he would be a great #2. What we don't have is an all around #1 WR that can run all the routes and make contested catches. If we can add that, Olave can play in the slot and we would be pretty much so set. Of course all this is contingent on Olave getting healthy again and MVS signing a contract to play here past this year.

I'll also add that I did like what I saw from Means before he got hurt. Hopefully he can come back from the high ankle sprain and get more experience.

 

[SaintswonSBXLIV]

How good is a core of Olave, Shaheed, MVS, Pettis. I think they have potential. A lot falls on Olave returning from the latest concussion, staying healthy and avoiding concussions. Pair that with Juwan finally being fully healthy and having his best game there is some hope for the future. I wouldn’t overlook adding a WR in the draft if one of the top ones fell.

Very good, but still need a physical reciever/TE to make the tough catches in the middle of the field. A Deebo Samuel type of WR.

 

[SaintswonSBXLIV]

I would put Bub Means ahead of MVS and Pettis. MVS would be either the 3rd or 4th WR. Pettis is a journeyman.

 

[St. Widge]

Olave isn't going to play another game for us.

Maybe. But all the talk coming from Olave is that he is going to work on strengthening his neck and getting bigger in anticipation for coming back next year, if not this year. This is mostly coming from Underhill who I think likely has a pretty good relationship with Olave and is getting this straight from him.

 

[St. Widge]

Whatever happens we need 2 more WRs. Reason being you can't count on Shaheed to be healthy consistently either. When he plays he balls out, but he's not durable. Where are they going to come from???? No freaking clue

I have a feeling that Olave is going to get traded to KC for 32, which would get us a 2nd first to use, but I don't know what prospects are out there. Had we not decided to start winning, maybe a Travis Hunter with our first first, but now we're going to be right back in that middle 10-15 area that usually nets us the 3rd best OL prospect out of Western Rhode Island U.

Travis Hunter is likely going #1 or #2 and he's likely a CB not a WR in the NFL.

Olave could get traded and I'd be fine with that. I think he's a good player but his frame is too small to be the player he needs to be and while he's good I don't think his talent is at a level where he can't be replaced. It's early but this draft doesn't seem to have a lot of top end WR talent other than McMillain, but there may be some value in the mid-rounds.

 

[St. Widge]

Here's a random top ten list of free agent wide receivers after this season. I'm sure someone else can dig more, but just a quick Google:

1) Tee Higgins, Cincinnati Bengals
2) Amari Cooper, Buffalo Bills
3) Chris Godwin, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4) Stefon Diggs, Houston Texans
5) DeAndre Hopkins, Kansas City Chiefs
6) Diontae Johnson, Baltimore Ravens
7) Hollywood Brown, Kansas City Chiefs
8) Keenan Allen, Chicago Bears
9) Elijah Moore, Cleveland Browns
10) Mike Williams, Pittsburgh Steelers

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-free-agents-by-position/

Tee Higgins is probably the only guy on that list that I think would make sense for the Saints. He's a true #1. But it will depend on if Loomis is still in soft reset mode or if his is going to start kicking the can again.

 

[Snakehead]

Maybe. But all the talk coming from Olave is that he is going to work on strengthening his neck and getting bigger in anticipation for coming back next year, if not this year. This is mostly coming from Underhill who I think likely has a pretty good relationship with Olave and is getting this straight from him.

If he wants to keep playing, he needs to do this.

My concerns when he came to the NFL was his RBS at 2.59 which is well below the average top 25 WR which in 2019 was 2.82 and 2020 2.76. He really needs to get to the 203-205 lbs range and he'd be in the average RBS range for a top 25 WR. I haven't completed my spreadsheet the last couple years, but I might do it this year to see how much has changed. The best WRs in the league all have a RBS in the range around 2.80 with a few outliers who are below it.

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