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St. Widge said:
Also, I never really saw Harry as the jock captain of the football team type. But that again could be a movie vs. book kind of thing. But, frankly, if he really was that type I probably would not have liked him as a character.
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Yep, Harry Potter was captain of the Gryffindor Quidditch team at Hogwarts in his sixth year. But that's kind of my point. Harry IS the football star on campus but HP isn't Americanized. I think on a subconscious level though that's where some of the Harry/Hermione stuff comes from. Our desire to put together the seemingly perfect choices for Prom Queen and King.

In the books, the dynamics between all three are move obvious. Especially in the way the friends would argue. When Harry and Hermione argue (or Harry and Ron for that matter), they have it out and sometimes it got ugly. Then they would resolve it, and hug it out. When Ron and Hermione argue it’s a knock-down, drag-out fight that ends with Hermione stomping away in frustration and tears and Ron turning into a moody mess. There was always underlying tension to their fights. Of course Hermione figured out long before either of the boys did why that was. And then I think Harry figured it out and wisely said, "yeah, I ain't getting in it, either they figure it out or not, I ain't touching it." Eventually though, Ron catches up too. And once they finally figured it out, it's like a cloud is lifted and they live happily ever after.

I love that Harry and Hermione can have this beautiful friendship and it's just that. Boys and girls, men and women CAN have incredible platonic relationships. It's one of the things I really like about the series. A young adult series that didn't devolve into a love triangle is absolutely refreshing. And again on the American sensibility side, we know the movie formula. Star of the movie Guy and leading girl go through life or death situation, when they come out excited that they're alive, "oh wait, were we kissing? I just realized I love you. Let's have sex cause we've bonded through this trauma!"
 
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Yep, Harry Potter was captain of the Gryffindor Quidditch team at Hogwarts in his sixth year. But that's kind of my point. Harry IS the football star on campus but HP isn't Americanized. I think on a subconscious level though that's where some of the Harry/Hermione stuff comes from. Our desire to put together the seemingly perfect choices for Prom Queen and King.

In the books, the dynamics between all three are move obvious. Especially in the way the friends would argue. When Harry and Hermione argue (or Harry and Ron for that matter), they have it out and sometimes it got ugly. Then they would resolve it, and hug it out. When Ron and Hermione argue it’s a knock-down, drag-out fight that ends with Hermione stomping away in frustration and tears and Ron turning into a moody mess. There was always underlying tension to their fights. Of course Hermione figured out long before either of the boys did why that was. And then I think Harry figured it out and wisely said, "yeah, I ain't getting in it, either they figure it out or not, I ain't touching it." Eventually though, Ron catches up too. And once they finally figured it out, it's like a cloud is lifted and they live happily ever after.

I love that Harry and Hermione can have this beautiful friendship and it's just that. Boys and girls, men and women CAN have incredible platonic relationships. It's one of the things I really like about the series. A young adult series that didn't devolve into a love triangle is absolutely refreshing. And again on the American sensibility side, we know the movie formula. Star of the movie Guy and leading girl go through life or death situation, when they come out excited that they're alive, "oh wait, were we kissing? I just realized I love you. Let's have sex cause we've bonded through this trauma!"
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We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I'll defer to you on whether the Ron/Hermoine and Harry/Ginny relationships make sense in the books. But they didn't make sense to me in the movies. All the "fights" they had seemed very forced and just another version of the trope that when girls and boys like each other the boys are mean to the girls an they both secretly like each other. There just wasn't any real chemistry between Ron and Hermoine in the movies, or between Harry and Ginny for that matter.

As far as it being an "Americanized" view, I think it's the opposite. I think the Americanized view of these things is that the nerdy guy ends up with the hot girl who realizes that he treats her better than the captain of the football team who is as arse. Harry is not American and despite being captain of the Quiditch team, is not an arse. So it's not at all an American point of view. In fact, it's the opposite of what Americans expect for the nerdy girl to end up with the captain of the football team. Captains of football teams end up with the popular girls, the cheerleaders and Ginny arguably fits that role more than Hermoine.

Anyway, to me the movies very much so made it feel like Harry ended up with Ginny as a second choice and the fact that Harry and Hermoine wanted to be more than friends seemed very clear to me in the scene where they danced to the Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds song in the tent.

Maybe it's just bad film making that does not reflect the books, but I don't see those relationships as working in the movies. Doesn't ruin the movies but I did find the ending very odd and sad in that regard.
 
St. Widge said:
We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I'll defer to you on whether the Ron/Hermoine and Harry/Ginny relationships make sense in the books. But they didn't make sense to me in the movies. All the "fights" they had seemed very forced and just another version of the trope that when girls and boys like each other the boys are mean to the girls an they both secretly like each other. There just wasn't any real chemistry between Ron and Hermoine in the movies, or between Harry and Ginny for that matter.

As far as it being an "Americanized" view, I think it's the opposite. I think the Americanized view of these things is that the nerdy guy ends up with the hot girl who realizes that he treats her better than the captain of the football team who is as arse. Harry is not American and despite being captain of the Quiditch team, is not an arse. So it's not at all an American point of view. In fact, it's the opposite of what Americans expect for the nerdy girl to end up with the captain of the football team. Captains of football teams end up with the popular girls, the cheerleaders and Ginny arguably fits that role more than Hermoine.

Anyway, to me the movies very much so made it feel like Harry ended up with Ginny as a second choice and the fact that Harry and Hermoine wanted to be more than friends seemed very clear to me in the scene where they danced to the Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds song in the tent.

Maybe it's just bad film making that does not reflect the books, but I don't see those relationships as working in the movies. Doesn't ruin the movies but I did find the ending very odd and sad in that regard.
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The movies did as good a job as could be done considering they started coming out before the books were finished. And let's be honest, it could have been far worse (looking at you, GoT). Despite the movies having to cut out a lot, it was still really done well. Unfortunately, Ginny's casting was done well before the movies knew the greater role she would take on in the books. To that point, she's hardly seen into the movies until it becomes known that she's going to be Harry's love interest. So we agree there. It was hard to manufacture the connection when the movie directors always treated Ginny like a background character. And unfortunately, the actor wasn't strong enough to pull off the lost time in the later movies. This is one of the things I'm looking forward to the TV series correcting. Ginny will surely play a more prominent part in the TV show at least starting with book two. From the movies, you almost forget that she's a big part of that storyline. She's there in the books. The movie makers just didn't know she'd be so important and it shows.

Respectfully, you've misinterpreted the scene you referenced. It wasn't them attempting to be more than friends or hinting at them wanting to be more than friends. Quite the opposite, that scene is specifically about Ron. It was an attempt to cheer up his friend who's obviously missing the guy she's in love with. The scene ends on a somber note. The unspoken message that both understood was it's not the same without him here. She knows what he's trying to do and appreciates it. He understands that she's trying to make the best of it and not show how it's getting to her and appreciates her for sticking through it. It's a love and mutual respect for their friendship being highlighted in that scene, nothing more.
 
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The movies did as good a job as could be done considering they started coming out before the books were finished. And let's be honest, it could have been far worse (looking at you, GoT). Despite the movies having to cut out a lot, it was still really done well. Unfortunately, Ginny's casting was done well before the movies knew the greater role she would take on in the books. To that point, she's hardly seen into the movies until it becomes known that she's going to be Harry's lover interest. So we agree there. It was hard to manufacture the connection when the movie director's always treated Ginny like a background character. And unfortunately, the actor wasn't strong enough to pull off the lost time in the later movies. This is one of the things I'm looking forward to the TV series correcting. Ginny will surely play a more prominent part in the TV show at least starting with book two. From the movies, you almost forget that she's a big part of that storyline. She's there in the books. The movie makers just didn't know she'd be so important and it shows.

Respectfully, you've misinterpreted the scene you referenced. It wasn't them attempting to be more than friends or hinting at them wanting to be more than friends. Quite the opposite, that scene is specifically about Ron. It was an attempt to cheer up his friend who's obviously missing the guy she's in love with. The scene ends on a somber note. The unspoken message that both understood was it's not the same without him here. She knows what he trying to do and appreciates it. He understands that she's trying to make the best of it and not show how it's getting to her and appreciates her for sticking through it. It's a love and mutual respect for their friendship being highlighted in that scene, nothing more.
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That's fair. But, I don't see your interpretation of the dancing. Maybe it's because Radcliffe and Watson had the chemistry and talent that Gint doesn't have, but I never saw that level of closeness or love between Hermoine and Ron and it seem to me to be more than friendship. Frankly, Hermoine is much like Harry's mother . . . and Harry is "just like his father" to some extent. So that's part of why I think that relationship makes more sense.

In addition, maybe it's just because I'm not a romantic, but what is love other than a close friendship with a shared physical attraction?

But, all these things are open to interpretation, and maybe my interpretation isn't shared by everyone or even the majority.
 
St. Widge said:
That's fair. But, I don't see your interpretation of the dancing. Maybe it's because Radcliffe and Watson had the chemistry and talent that Gint doesn't have, but I never saw that level of closeness or love between Hermoine and Ron and it seem to me to be more than friendship. Frankly, Hermoine is much like Harry's mother . . . and Harry is "just like his father" to some extent. So that's part of why I think that relationship makes more sense.

In addition, maybe it's just because I'm not a romantic, but what is love other than a close friendship with a shared physical attraction?

But, all these things are open to interpretation, and maybe my interpretation isn't shared by everyone or even the majority.
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Dancing doesn't equal attraction. Yeah, it's the movies. Also, Harry's nothing like his father. If that's your takeaway, there's certainly some missing context in the movies. James is the embodiment of the star athlete king of the school jerk.
 
livefromDC said:
Dancing doesn't equal attraction. Yeah, it's the movies. Also, Harry's nothing like his father. If that's your takeaway, there's certainly some missing context in the movies. James is the embodiment of the star athlete king of the school jerk.
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I was quoting Snape who said Harry was just like his father. Anyway, I agree he wasn't just like his father, but there are definite similarities in the bravery, popularity, and athletic skills. Obviously his father had a cruel streak that Harry does not have, but again Hermoine was much like Harry's mother and if you know your Freud then . . . I'm half joking, but it does happen quite a bit that men are attracted to women that are like their mother and given that Harry had no mother figure growing up, it would make sense for him to be looking for a "mother".

As for the dancing, no dancing doesn't have to mean attraction, but I don't recall seeing many women in platonic relationships dancing like they were. I know I wouldn't want my wife dancing with a friend like that. But, that could just be the movie.
 
HBO has kicked off its search for the next Harry Potter, Ron Weasley and Hermione Granger, with the studio posting an open casting call for its forthcoming TV adaptation.

The casting call – which the studio confirmed to the Guardian was authentic – is looking for children who will be between the ages of 9 and 11 in April 2025. They will audition to play the boy wizard and his two magical friends as they go on coming-of-age adventures and fight evil at the Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry.

While all aspiring actors must be residents of the UK and Ireland, producers are “committed to inclusive, diverse casting”, the advert said, and it will be open to all races, ethnicities and gender identities.


The casting call is asking for each prospective actor to submit two short self-tapes, including a short poem or story – but nothing from Harry Potter.

“Please use your own accent,” the casting call states.

The new series, announced last year by HBO’s parent company, Warner Bros Discovery, will run for at least seven seasons on Max, the streaming service previously known as HBO Max, with each season “authentic” to each of the original, wildly popular books written by JK Rowling. Rowling will serve as an executive producer on the “decade-long” series……

HBO posts casting call for next-generation Harry Potter TV series

Studio advertises for British and Irish children aged 9-11 to play Hogwarts heroes in ‘decade-long’ TV adaptations
www.theguardian.com
 
I would love to be excited about this but I'm tired of Hollywood screwing things up.
I have little faith.

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Recent updates have shed light on the release date of the highly anticipated Harry Potter HBO series. Reports suggest that production is moving forward, with casting underway for the central roles of Harry, Ron, and Hermione. However, fans may need to wait longer than initially expected for the show to premiere.

The new Harry Potter television series, which was earlier slated to be released in 2026, is now expected to premiere 2027.

JB Perrette, CEO and President of Global Streaming for Warner Bros. Discovery, confirmed the timeline during a tech and media conference. He described the series as the start of a "10-year journey," highlighting the company's long-term plans for the project (via Variety).

The series will adapt J.K. Rowling's seven-book saga, with production scheduled to begin in 2025. Casting is reportedly underway for actors aged 9-11 to portray Harry Potter, Ron Weasley, and Hermione Granger (via TVLine).

The plan includes shooting seasons close together to minimize age discrepancies, as explained by Casey Bloys, HBO's Chief Content Officer. Bloys noted, "One of the ideas we talked about was shooting the first season and the second season very close to each other time-wise."..............

Harry Potter Series Gets Disappointing Release Date Window for HBO & Max

HBO's highly anticipated Harry Potter series has recently got an update about its release window. Read on to find out!
www.comingsoon.net
 
Optimus Prime said:
Recent updates have shed light on the release date of the highly anticipated Harry Potter HBO series. Reports suggest that production is moving forward, with casting underway for the central roles of Harry, Ron, and Hermione. However, fans may need to wait longer than initially expected for the show to premiere.

The new Harry Potter television series, which was earlier slated to be released in 2026, is now expected to premiere 2027.

JB Perrette, CEO and President of Global Streaming for Warner Bros. Discovery, confirmed the timeline during a tech and media conference. He described the series as the start of a "10-year journey," highlighting the company's long-term plans for the project (via Variety).

The series will adapt J.K. Rowling's seven-book saga, with production scheduled to begin in 2025. Casting is reportedly underway for actors aged 9-11 to portray Harry Potter, Ron Weasley, and Hermione Granger (via TVLine).

The plan includes shooting seasons close together to minimize age discrepancies, as explained by Casey Bloys, HBO's Chief Content Officer. Bloys noted, "One of the ideas we talked about was shooting the first season and the second season very close to each other time-wise."..............

Harry Potter Series Gets Disappointing Release Date Window for HBO & Max

HBO's highly anticipated Harry Potter series has recently got an update about its release window. Read on to find out!
www.comingsoon.net
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shaking cane moment - but why in the world is it taking shows/movies so much longer to come out?
 
guidomerkinsrules said:
shaking cane moment - but why in the world is it taking shows/movies so much longer to come out?
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It's becoming more of a conversation lately. People seem to be getting tired of waiting three years for 8-10 episodes. And I've honestly never heard any good arguments for why it takes so long these days aside from TV productions being bigger than they used to be. Which while true still doesn't really explain anything.
 
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UPDATED: Paapa Essiedu is being eyed for the role of Professor Severus Snape in the upcoming “Harry Potter” TV series, Varietyhas confirmed with sources.

According to sources, no deal is currently in place and Essiedu has not formally accepted the role. He is the latest actor to be mentioned for a part in the series. Variety previously reported that Academy Award winner Mark Rylance was in the running for the role of Hogwarts headmaster Albus Dumbledore.

Reps for HBO responded to Variety‘s request for comment with the following statement: “We appreciate that such a high-profile series will draw a lot of rumor and speculation. As we make our way through pre-production, we will only confirm details as we finalize deals.”…….

‘Harry Potter’ HBO Series Eyes Paapa Essiedu for Severus Snape Role

Paapa Essiedu is being eyed for the role of Professor Severus Snape in the upcoming "Harry Potter" TV series, Variety has confirmed with sources.
variety.com
 

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