How many offensive lineman should the Saints draft next year? (1 Viewer)

[DSnfla]

The most succesful teams, have a great o-line. That is all.

Completely and totally false, and it's not even close . Onlyu ONE really good team in the top 5
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2024-offensive-line-rankings-detroit-lions-penei-sewell-frank-ragnow

 

[radkison]

All of them

 

[solarbear88]

True, but what rds did they get these players?

SF has:
5th rd
3rd rd
2nd rd
1st rd-Williams
UDFA
As their starters

KC has:
3rd rd
3rd
2nd rd
2nd rd
6th rd

Ravens have:
1st rd
1st rd
UDFA
2nd rd
4th rd

Bills have:
2nd rd
5th rd
5th rd
2nd rd
3rd rd

You mean in some cases they developed guys from a round lower than 3rd into starters? Omg that's just crazy talk.

 

[DSnfla]

You mean in some cases they developed guys from a round lower than 3rd into starters? Omg that's just crazy talk.

In their system like ours, you don't need stars across the OL just mostly @ LT

 

[Jd101]

Eleventy. Next question....

Eleventy sounds right

 

[Wisco Steve]

Just read this, and I'll grant you that it can be awfully subjective, but:
Fuaga started hot in the first few weeks and looked like a bargain for a Saints team that badly needed an offensive tackle. So much has changed since then. The rookie left tackle now ranks 64th out of 67 qualifying tackles in pass block win rate and had the lowest PBWR among tackles in last week's loss to the Broncos.

 

[Nutria]

Hard to take multiple shots at OL if the SOP is to constantly trade up for one guy that team management falls in love with.

 

[sainthood]

Soldaveri needs to develop. Patrick is a free agent. Having McCoy, Patrick, and Ruiz all out of the same time is not the standard to evaluate draft needs. We have two tackles who are first rounders who can play in this system. McCoy is one of our best players. We extended Ruiz. We drafted Soldavari with the first pick of the fourth round. We have to see if Patrick is worthy of a legitimate contract and just draft for depth on the o line. The real needs of this team is to rethink the type of defensive lineman we have. These long slow defensive ends are horrible at finishing the sack on mobile quarterbacks. We just need speed on defensive as our number one draft need. Mathieu and Jordan are aged. Davis is showing signs of aging. We need a youth movement at all three levels. I am less worried about the offensive line seeing what this team can do in the new offensive scheme than the defensive scheme. Allen has a good defensive scheme but we just need more speed on defense particularly in the front seven. We need a legitimate pass rush threat more than anything on this team. Chase Young is not it. Jordan is not it. Granderson is ok. Breesee is ok. Everybody else is negotiable for replacement.

 

[DSnfla]

Hard to take multiple shots at OL if the SOP is to constantly trade up for one guy that team management falls in love with.

When have we traded up for an O lineman????

 

[solarbear88]

When have we traded up for an O lineman????

Penning

 

[St. Widge]

Penning

Nope. Penning was taken with our original pick that we got from the Eagles in that draft. We traded up to take Olave.

 

[Nutria]

When have we traded up for an O lineman????

Penning

Indeed, Penning (edit, no, Widge correct). And McCoy.

Even so, the point was not that the team is constantly trading up to acquire OL, but rather that management is constantly trading up to acquire someone. It's not possible to rebuild with lots of draft picks if the picks are being traded away each year. The draft is a crap shoot, even in the early rounds, and the more throws, the more chances of hits.

 

[DSnfla]

Penning

We did not trade up for Penning , we made that trade with Philly long before the draft. Making a trade up for an OL that we fell in love with would happen draft day , during the draft. Now we did trade up to get Olave

 

[DSnfla]

Indeed, Penning (edit, no, Widge correct). And McCoy.

Even so, the point was not that the team is constantly trading up to acquire OL, but rather that management is constantly trading up to acquire someone. It's not possible to rebuild with lots of draft picks if the picks are being traded away each year. The draft is a crap shoot, even in the early rounds, and the more throws, the more chances of hits.

It's only a bad trade up when you don't hit on the player. We actually moved down a spot and were able to take Penning. It's Olave we probably gave up too much to get. In reality Olave cost us 2 3rds and a 7th in 22. In 23 a 1st #10 and in 24 a 2nd. Way too much for him. The Davenport trade was bad not because he as not good , but he could not stay healthy.
And then there is the AK trade up and the McCoy trade up. Don't see anyone complaining about those trade ups

 

[UFCSaint]

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