Is Old Music Killing New Music? (2 Viewers)

[Buickman]

Speaking from a hard rock/metal perspective, I listen to Octane during my commute, which is an hour to an hour and a half. I like a lot of the newer music. My favorite song of 2021 is Self Destructor by Chevelle and I'll probably still like it 10 years from now. Now, there are some songs on there I really don't like and I change the channel to Ozzy's Boneyard. I think it comes down to each individual's perspective on what they like.

IMO, today the air waves are over saturated with pop/hip hop/country, to the point that the songs are starting to sound the same, and those are the ones that will become forgettable. But, when something unique comes out, then that should stand out more.

 

[Complex Kid]

Rick is great. Anyone that likes music needs to be subscribed to his channels.

 

[zatsnzapps]

I think Only Time Will Tell is sort of the Mendoza Line for music.

I skipped to the appropriate part.

 

[Optimus Prime]

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Consider these other trends:

• The leading area of investment in the music business is old songs. Investment firms are getting into bidding wars to buy publishing catalogs from aging rock and pop stars.
• The song catalogs in most demand are by musicians who are in their 70s or 80s (Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, Bruce Springsteen) or already dead (David Bowie, James Brown).
• Even major record labels are participating in the rush to old music: Universal Music, Sony Music, Warner Music, and others are buying up publishing catalogs and investing huge sums in old tunes. In a previous time, that money would have been used to launch new artists.
• The best-selling physical format in music is the vinyl LP, which is more than 70 years old. I’ve seen no signs that the record labels are investing in a newer, better alternative—because, here too, old is viewed as superior to new.
• In fact, record labels—once a source of innovation in consumer products—don’t spend any money on research and development to revitalize their business, although every other industry looks to innovation for growth and consumer excitement.
• Record stores are caught up in the same time warp. In an earlier era, they aggressively marketed new music, but now they make more money from vinyl reissues and used LPs…….

 

[mjcouvi]

The fraction of all the music that's old music keeps growing and the fraction of all the music that's new music keeps shrinking, so makes sense.

 

[TXSAINTFAN]

Seeing Elton John in about 7 hours. Gonna get me some of that old music.

 

[sonicboom]

Personally think record companies and radio stations are killing music. Also with the popularity of the internet, radio and Mtv seem obsolete. Youtube killed Mtv.

It will be very difficult to herd the younger generations to certain bands or singers, since kids can decide who they want to listen to instead of radio and Mtv deciding. Also, with all the illegal download or very cheap downloading, profits aren't there for most musicians.

From what I understand in the past record companies dictated who plays at the big clubs and gets played on the radio. Maybe some pop singers or groups can herd the masses, but the game has changed thanks to the internet.

The music business in whole is completely corrupt. I hear stories on how musicians are basically indebted to the record companies, just to break even is a dream. Adds more barriers for good music to be heard.

You have independent labels, but the major air waves are completely dominated by large corporations.

Now add the Covid lock downs, so this makes it a even greater obstacle to get a following going.

Cost of living keeps going up, so all those guitars that are being taken to the pawn shop, is just a grave yard of new music, that will never be heard. Things can change though, but maybe the 90's was the peak of music, to a very long drawn out down trend, until the culture is right, and ready for a new sound.

 

[Complex Kid]

I agree that corporate radio was the start of the downfall of radio. The same company pretty much owns every station and have McDonald’sfied their playlists.

Guitars and instruments aren’t getting played anymore by the younger kids not because of cost (although that is a factor) but because of the learning curve. Why would I want to sit and learn guitar for three or four years to get decent when I can just hit a few buttons and come up with a beat I can sing over and make something that can potentially catch fire on tik tok? Rick Beato who’s video was linked earlier had a video where he talked about this much better than I can and I can’t find it now but he’s pretty spot on.

 

[Complex Kid]

Here is the one where he talks a little about the consolidation of radio stations.

 

[sonicboom]

Here is the one where he talks a little about the consolidation of radio stations.

I was starting to watch this video, but it mentioned

language

Foo Fighters.

 

[JenningsTruckers]

From same article
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Consider these other trends:

• The leading area of investment in the music business is old songs. Investment firms are getting into bidding wars to buy publishing catalogs from aging rock and pop stars.
• The song catalogs in most demand are by musicians who are in their 70s or 80s (Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, Bruce Springsteen) or already dead (David Bowie, James Brown).
• Even major record labels are participating in the rush to old music: Universal Music, Sony Music, Warner Music, and others are buying up publishing catalogs and investing huge sums in old tunes. In a previous time, that money would have been used to launch new artists.
• The best-selling physical format in music is the vinyl LP, which is more than 70 years old. I’ve seen no signs that the record labels are investing in a newer, better alternative—because, here too, old is viewed as superior to new.
• In fact, record labels—once a source of innovation in consumer products—don’t spend any money on research and development to revitalize their business, although every other industry looks to innovation for growth and consumer excitement.
• Record stores are caught up in the same time warp. In an earlier era, they aggressively marketed new music, but now they make more money from vinyl reissues and used LPs…….

I'll probably get ragged for this , but the Superbowl halftime show is something I'm not going to watch or even look forward too . There's plenty of great artists out there that are a lot better than who they picked . Most people watch the superbowl but the halftime show can be embarrassing in from of kids . Ever listen to the lyrics of snoop dog , first he can't sing and what comes out of his mouth is well ( hatred for law enforcement , cursing , just plain disgusting ) . Again , he can't sing ! The last good halftime show was Prince , now he was a great artist .

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I'll probably get ragged for this , but the Superbowl halftime show is something I'm not going to watch or even look forward too . There's plenty of great artists out there that are a lot better than who they picked . Most people watch the superbowl but the halftime show can be embarrassing in from of kids . Ever listen to the lyrics of snoop dog , first he can't sing and what comes out of his mouth is well ( hatred for law enforcement , cursing , just plain disgusting ) . Again , he can't sing ! The last good halftime show was Prince , now he was a great artist .

you're not going to get ragged for hating the halftime show - they typically suck
but a few things - When has Snoop ever sung? i don't think i've ever heard that
do you imagine the nfl and advertisers are going to let the show air live without a slight delay to beep whatever they feel they need to? really?
can you cite the 'hatred for law enforcement' lyrics for discussion since you brought it up?

 

[itztime]

you're not going to get ragged for hating the halftime show - they typically suck
but a few things - When has Snoop ever sung? i don't think i've ever heard that
do you imagine the nfl and advertisers are going to let the show air live without a slight delay to beep whatever they feel they need to? really?
can you cite the 'hatred for law enforcement' lyrics for discussion since you brought it up?

I have no opinion on this but I did see a NY Post article in regards.

Snoop Dogg performing at Super Bowl halftime show becoming even worse look

Keepin’ it real. Let’s do it together. Last Saturday, during CBS’s telecast of the Titans-Bengals playoff game, a commercial for Corona beer aired, starring Snoop Dogg, who, despite countless arres…

nypost.com

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I have no opinion on this but I did see a NY Post article in regards.

Snoop Dogg performing at Super Bowl halftime show becoming even worse look

Keepin’ it real. Let’s do it together. Last Saturday, during CBS’s telecast of the Titans-Bengals playoff game, a commercial for Corona beer aired, starring Snoop Dogg, who, despite countless arres…

nypost.com

did you read it? the leaps in logic are migraine inducing
but his other article where he hides behind MLK is a nice touch

 

[itztime]

did you read it? the leaps in logic are migraine inducing
but his other article where he hides behind MLK is a nice touch

Yes, I read it, the author reaches and got the headlines he desired.