Israel (now broader Mid East discussion) (12 Viewers)

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[SamAndreas]

It appears that US Army is the correct terminology.

Army reserve watercraft

I guess you didn't catch my drift. The problem is they gave fairly large ocean going boats to the Army, instead of giving them to the navy.

 

[SamAndreas]

When did this happen? Iran directly attempting to assassinate Bibi is essentially a declaration of war. Good luck with all that.

It didn't happen. One of the Hezbollah or Hamas bottle rockets hit a neighbor house in the same neighborhood as where Bibi might have been during periods of relative peace time. Bibi wasn't at that home, and he wouldn't have been at that home, they guard him better than that.

The Dr. Eli David who dreamed up that BS Tweet is a flaky conspiracy theorist mess of the same vein as RFK, don't listen to what he says.

 

[SamAndreas]

Now that might actually work.

 

[SamAndreas]

That fellow is beat up.

The explosion that did him must have been a car bomb or a shell hitting his car. One of the car's parts is laying on top of his legs.

The part which is on top of him are normally to be found inside of one of a cars tires, it's an inner tube liner.

How on Earth did that explosion get it out of the center of the car tire while leaving it in what appears to be a usable condition. Weird.

 

[SamAndreas]

Yes, bad people take hostages. I do not support any of the choices made by Hamas.

Bad people make choices that kill 40,000 innocent civilians, and bad people support those decisions.

A single dead Palestinian is worth EXACTLY the same as a dead Israeli.

How many of the guilty Hamas terrorists are embedded in that so called 40,000 "innocent civilians" talking point number???

I'm assuming that all guilty Hamas terrorists become innocent civilians upon the moment of their death.

I have noticed that there doesn't seem to be an accounting of the guilty Hamas dead when pro-palestinian talkers, are talking. That's why I think they become "innocent" upon the moment of their deaths.

I think it might be kinda hard to find an innocent person in either Israel or Gaza. The violence has been going on for so long now. Innocent people probably left the area, or were killed 20 or 30 years ago.

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

How many of the guilty Hamas terrorists are embedded in that so called 40,000 "innocent civilians" talking point number???

I'm assuming that all guilty Hamas terrorists become innocent civilians upon the moment of their death.

I have noticed that there doesn't seem to be an accounting of the guilty Hamas dead when pro-palestinian talkers, are talking. That's why I think they become "innocent" upon the moment of their deaths.

I think it might be kinda hard to find an innocent person in either Israel or Gaza. The violence has been going on for so long now. Innocent people probably left the area, or were killed 20 or 30 years ago.

How origional.

Your argument is tired. It do not care. You and I have different views on the value of human life.

 

[SamAndreas]

How origional.

Your argument is tired. It do not care. You and I have different views on the value of human life.

It appears that you have attempted to anthropomorphise my argument. I don't think arguments get tired, nor do they have feelings.

I didn't make an argument, nor have I picked sides in this war. I pointed out a difficulty you have with your talking point 40,000 innocent death number.


Apparently you and I now have different views on the value of human life.

I don't assign a value to human life, human life is not a thing, things are things which have values assigned to them.

I guess one could chuckle over the priceless nature of human life.


I do know that you didn't come up with that 40,000 of "innocents" number in your own. It's in the Torah, in the book of numbers, 40,000 is the number of a people, a nation, roughly the number of persons in each of 12 named tribes when they were with Moses out in the desert for 40 long years. It comes from numerology in the bible, not what has happened in Gaza.

For Jews 4, and multiples of 4 are symbolic numbers. Think about the biblical metaphor that 40,000 innocents have been killed sets up.

That pro-palestinian persons have plucked that symbolic number from the Jewish Torah, instead of say using say a valid number for the number who have actually died in Gaza, is fairly understandable as a slur.

It's a number plucked from the Torah which was then used in a made up emotional argument.



So to conclude, this time I did make an argument, an argument that 40,000 is a religiously symbolic number to Jews, which was more than likely plucked from the bible rather than it being a valid number of the dead. It's purpose is emotional.

I still haven't picked sides.

 

[DaveXA]

It didn't happen. One of the Hezbollah or Hamas bottle rockets hit a neighbor house in the same neighborhood as where Bibi might have been during periods of relative peace time. Bibi wasn't at that home, and he wouldn't have been at that home, they guard him better than that.

The Dr. Eli David who dreamed up that BS Tweet is a flaky conspiracy theorist mess of the same vein as RFK, don't listen to what he says.

Thanks for setting that straight.

 

[Heathen Saint]

The nation we support with our tax dollars to slaughter children

 

[SamAndreas]

The nation we support with our tax dollars to slaughter children

Sorry Heathen, during my life I have watched a lot of drama. Both good drama and bad drama. I even watch a lot of Russian drama. That latter is good / bad drama. It's great drama because it is so bad.

My impression, this is a drama show. The father daughter conversation is out of place for the surroundings. Good drama, but it is drama. The scene on the street seemed staged to me.

Who knows what happened out there on the street. The producer of that show was using the people inside to be the narrators of what was happening out on the street.

It's the father daughter narrators who blow this gig for me. They seem completely out of place, false.

That's what this issue, and many more issues have become, high drama. So little of what I see on the Internet is believable.

I don't think this happened, I think it was staged.

Here's an example of great Russian drama because it's so terribly awful bad:

 

[Heathen Saint]

My impression, this is a drama show. The father daughter conversation is out of place for the surroundings. Good drama, but it is drama. The scene on the street seemed staged to me.

Who knows what happened out there on the street. The producer of that show was using the people inside to be the narrators of what was happening out on the street.

It's the father daughter narrators who blow this gig for me. They seem completely out of place, false.

That's what this issue, and many more issues have become, high drama. So little of what I see on the Internet is believable.

I don't think this happened, I think it was staged.

Wow..

I have no words.

Everyone — Remember when I brought up the term “cognitive dissonance” a few pages back? It wasn’t for effect or drama.

Literally watching Israel kill children as Israel talks about killing children and “it’s all staged” because someone doesn’t want to believe it.

Remember stuff like this.

It’s how narratives are solidified to continue the genocide and the oppression of certain people.