Israel (now broader Mid East discussion) (3 Viewers)

[efil4stnias]

Wouldn't surprise me. Hezbollah is essentially a proxy for Iran. If Hezbollah declares war on Israel or vice versa, then Iran would be dragged into the conflict, willingly or not. Iran doesn't want a direct confrontation with either Israel or the US.

They have enough issues as it is with the war in Ukraine having a big impact on them.

I tend to agree with others who believe the 2 conflicts are related as both Iran and Russia have been meddling in the ME for years, even decades. So calling the current conflict in Israel another front in a larger war males sense. Whether that evolves into WWIII idk, I just hope no one gets stupid with nukes.

Putin, in China yesterday, praised Xi for his "long term outlook" and lambasted the "West" for we change "leaders" every 4/8 years and how that doesnt allow us to look 10,15 or 20 years ahead.

I found that to be the most telling and confirms what may have written about for decades- Leaders like Putin/Xi are not thinking in terms of 3-5 years. Its 10,20 years. So a move today may not make sense in the micro, but if you widen the lens to macro, then you can start to see patterns develop for broader goals for their respective power.

What better way to distract than the stir up the hornets nest that is the ME.

 

[bclemms]

Putin, in China yesterday, praised Xi for his "long term outlook" and lambasted the "West" for we change "leaders" every 4/8 years and how that doesnt allow us to look 10,15 or 20 years ahead.

I found that to be the most telling and confirms what may have written about for decades- Leaders like Putin/Xi are not thinking in terms of 3-5 years. Its 10,20 years. So a move today may not make sense in the micro, but if you widen the lens to macro, then you can start to see patterns develop for broader goals for their respective power.

What better way to distract than the stir up the hornets nest that is the ME.

Yep. These are brutal dictators that have killed and imprisoned millions for what are basic human rights. They have no problem kicking a hornets nest and watching 10k people die if it serves their best interest. Pretending this is two separate wars is full head in sand.

Nukes have made the world a safer place for a long time. Right now they are protecting regimes that should be dealt with forcefully.

 

[superchuck500]

The corrosive impact of unconditional US support for Israel

A former peace negotiator on why the United States not standing up to Israel has been "about the worst thing America could have done."

www.motherjones.com

 

[SamAndreas]

 

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[efil4stnias]

And Putin stands up and decries Israel.

Because no one does the same to him publicly. Its time the world starts to take heed of these murderous dictators and know they sow conflict where they can so to keep themselves in power.

 

[baarbogast]

I sent him a tweet asking if the Arab League could do something.

 

[Sailorsaint]

And Putin stands up and decries Israel.

Because no one does the same to him publicly. Its time the world starts to take heed of these murderous dictators and know they sow conflict where they can so to keep themselves in power.

I think (hope) most of us see the blatant hypocrisy.

 

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[DaveXA]

Bye...*****.

 

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