Jeff Duncan on Sean Payton 2023 (3 Viewers)

[3ParStillDriver]

Duncan isn't a legitimate source, try again.

Absolutely silly. The guy gets more info directly from people in the from office then just about anyone else in the business.

 

[DaveXA]

Absolutely silly. The guy gets more info directly from people in the from office then just about anyone else in the business.

Source?

 

[3ParStillDriver]

Source?

Provide me Source that you need a Source?

 

[St. Widge]

Absolutely silly. The guy gets more info directly from people in the from office then just about anyone else in the business.

Duncan gets information that the front office wants released to the public. He isn't finding out anything that they don't want people to know.

 

[St. Widge]

Where is this idea that Loomis wants to keep the coaching staff coming from? I haven't seen that reported in any legitimate media.

In fact Underhill has reported that it is not true and the staff will be allowed to interview for and take other jobs.

 

[DaveXA]

In fact Underhill has reported that it is not true and the staff will be allowed to interview for and take other jobs.

That's what I thought.

 

[MikeyF]

Makes all the sense in the world why he wanted Drew Brees as his QB in NOLA.

Broncos' Sean Payton unintentionally exposed why he wanted Steelers' Russell Wilson off his team

The Pittsburgh Steelers brought in quarterback Russell Wilson on a one-year deal worth the veteran minimum ahead of the 2024 season. This, of course, was thanks to Denver Broncos head coach Sean Payton forcing Wilson out of town.

www.yardbarker.com

 

[DaveXA]

Provide me Source that you need a Source?

So, a nonsensical response is the best you can do? Color me shocked.

 

[NatureBoy]

In fact Underhill has reported that it is not true and the staff will be allowed to interview for and take other jobs.

In Rizzi’s end of year interview with the press he said the Saints would consider granting their staff, who are under contract, the ability to interview for other (lateral) jobs on a case by case basis. That includes Rizzi himself. He said that came directly from Loomis.

 

[DaveXA]

In Rizzi’s end of year interview with the press he said the Saints would consider granting their staff, who are under contract, the ability to interview for other (lateral) jobs on a case by case basis. That includes Rizzi himself. He said that came directly from Loomis.

Yep, in other words, Duncan's take is rubbish. Lol.

 

[St. Widge]

In Rizzi’s end of year interview with the press he said the Saints would consider granting their staff, who are under contract, the ability to interview for other (lateral) jobs on a case by case basis. That includes Rizzi himself. He said that came directly from Loomis.

Which certainly seems to confirm what Underhill reported.

 

[Madmarsha]

Oh, he says he KNOWS it. I guess that's good enough.

 

[DavidM]

You can take Duncan at his word or consider what Payton has said publicly about why he moved on.

From the last time the Duncan rumor came up:

Payton already opened up about some of the reasons why he left the Saints, and my sense of that is he thought it was better for his career. Payton wanted to be (needs to be?) insulated by powerful ownership. He directly called out Goodell in this interview, so everybody can decide for themselves.

If there is any truth to this notion he wanted to return, that doesn't exactly put him in the best light. The team already stuck with him through 2012 - sure, it made all the sense to do that - but from the team's point of view, I'm not sure what would have changed. If he needed time off, it at least seems plausible the team could have orchestrated a plan to hire an interim - who would have known that going in and had the chance to showcase his coaching ability - and not burn a relationship with the best DC he had in his time here. The Saints were in the unique situation of already having had to make such a plan work - for Sean Payton. If he didn't know at the time if it was a year off, or a break-up, that's on him. Of course we all would have rather had him than Allen, but the world can't revolve around Payton changing his mind, if that was the case, because a lot of other livelihoods, and the team reputation in coaching circles, were on the line.

The best insight we have is that Payton wanted to leave because he thought the team (I think it was him, personally) was targeted by the league and he sought greener pastures. Words from his own mouth.

From a lengthy expose', September 2023 (ESPN)

Before the Broncos hired Payton, we had last caught up in early 2022, just after the Saints had commissioned a study of penalties drawn by each NFL team over the previous four seasons. New Orleans ranked 30, 31, 32 and 32. It seemed impossible to believe, with Payton's high-flying offense and passing-friendly rule changes. The data concluded that the Saints were the only team in the bottom five in penalties drawn for four straight seasons since 2006. That year is symbolic to Payton. It's when he was hired by the Saints -- and when Roger Goodell was elected as NFL commissioner. "The irony of it ----ing all," he says.

[...]

After 16 years in New Orleans, Payton was burned out on an existential level. The job was hard enough to do under ideal circumstances; to have his legacy subject to blown calls and bureaucracy left deep scars. He decided to walk away. "I got tired," he says. "There was a feeling, I would say on my part, of losing the jump balls in this game. You know? Success or lack of success with the Saints is a blip on the NFL."

The chance to win a jump ball was essential when Payton returned to coach Denver after a season in broadcasting. The Walton-Penner family that owns the Broncos is by far the league's richest ownership group, and Payton believes the league is invested in Denver's success, an iconic franchise that hasn't been in the playoffs since winning Super Bowl 50. With a new start has come a promise to himself: no time or energy wasted carrying old grievances or fighting old wars. "You look at utilizing your battery life better," he says. Before the Broncos hired him, Payton spoke to his mentor, Hall of Fame coach Bill Parcells, who knows how professional football encourages and rewards some of a coach's worst competitive impulses. Parcells had advice for Payton, and it had nothing to do with fixing Russell Wilson or stopping Patrick Mahomes.

"You know exactly where the ----ing land mines are," he said. "Avoid them."

Sean Payton is back to save the Denver Broncos - and himself

Disillusioned by Roger Goodell and league politics, Payton left the NFL. Now reinvigorated, he's back to rebuild the Broncos and take another run at a Super Bowl.

www.espn.com

 

[HoustonSaint68]

Broncos' Sean Payton unintentionally exposed why he wanted Steelers' Russell Wilson off his team

The Pittsburgh Steelers brought in quarterback Russell Wilson on a one-year deal worth the veteran minimum ahead of the 2024 season. This, of course, was thanks to Denver Broncos head coach Sean Payton forcing Wilson out of town.

www.yardbarker.com

Thanks for the post.

The only thing I take issue with is the title to the linked article. Sean Payton does absolutely NOTHING unintentionally.

 

[HoustonSaint68]

Source?

My guess?

Payton himself, but not for attribution. Misinformation, but Payton.