Jim Mora didn’t like Rizzi chewing out Matthew Hayball (4 Viewers)

[DSnfla]

I get the point of your opinion. I just don't agree with your opinion. There's no factual right or wrong on this issue, just opinions.


That's an opinion and it's a subjective issue so opinions are neither factually right or wrong, just different.


In my opinion, Rizzi's reaction wasn't at the level some people see it as being.


That's opinion and speculation, not that there's anything wrong with that. He didn't look out of control in my opinion and I'm not going to speculate on what Rizzi did or didn't know.


I've seen players do that with Belichik, Payton and other coaches who are respected and admired by some of the people who are criticizing Rizzi and using it as a reason to say he's not qualified to be a head coach.

Most of those people had already formed the opinion that Rizzi is not qualified to be a head coach, so it's expected they would use this as one more justification for the opinion they had already formed. There's nothing at all surprising about some people's reactions to Rizzi's actions.


Case in point and it's just your opinion that his emotions got the best of him. The whole exchange lasted around 30 seconds and Rizzi immediately turn his attention back to moving forward. In my opinion, that is not the actions of someone who let their emotions get the best of them. That's the actions of someone that expressed their emotions and then moved on.


In my opinion, throwing down a headset and having a red face does not make Rizzi's actions substantially different from similar actions I've seen from Payton, Belichick and other respected and admired coaches.

I understand and get it that you think that throwing down the headset and having a red face makes Rizzi's reactions significantly different. That's your subjective opinion and not an objective fact. I have a different subjective opinion from you. Do you get that?

You made that way too long post to say your opinion is different from my opinion. Other than direct quotes isn't that what everyone on here is doing? Exercising their opinion. Got It

 

[DSnfla]

As already stated by myself and others, Hayball was supposed to be a safety net in case the returner got past those 10 players. But since he decided to join the scrum and play out of position, the returner got past him and everyone else.

A lot of you criticizing Rizzi would be calling for Hayball's head here and the GD thread had the flag not be thrown and the Saints lost.

Half the people in the GD thread are inebriated and they say the most ridiculous things. I would have been calling for the whole punt team's head

 

[StudioSaint]

You made that way too long post to say your opinion is different from my opinion. Other than direct quotes isn't that what everyone on here is doing? Exercising their opinion. Got It

Glad you finally got the point. Hope you remember it going forward.

 

[texasjefe]

Half the people in the GD thread are inebriated and they say the most ridiculous things. I would have been calling for the whole punt team's head

Not me Sniffy. I'm usually high and drunk.

 

[DSnfla]

Glad you finally got the point. Hope you remember it going forward.

Yup and some opinions that are presented as facts can be ridiculously wrong. Something to remember in the future

 

[DSnfla]

Not me Sniffy. I'm usually high and drunk.

I think inebriated covers both , didn't want to leave you out

 

[StudioSaint]

Yup and some opinions that are presented as facts can be ridiculously wrong. Something to remember in the future

Good to see that you recognize that you frequently do that and are working on remembering to stop doing that in the future.

 

[parlorcitysaint]

I don't even care a little bit what Jim Mora thinks. About anything. At all.

 

[St. Widge]

I don't even care a little bit what Jim Mora thinks. About anything. At all.

He probably feels the same way about you. That is if he knew who you were.

 

[soupcan dan]

jeemenee christmas !

 

[Crazed*Saints*Fan]

I was ok with Rizzi going off, Hayball is basically the safety after he punts the ball. The issue was why are you 30 yards up the field and not playing back in the case of what if the returner broke loose? Simple lane integrity that Hayball completely brain farted on.

 

[webster]

Play ball and don’t get your feelings hurt because a coach yelled at you. How many of you guys got their face masked jerked around d by a coach? It used to be normal to jump players for making boneheaded mistakes.

 

[Saint KayBee]

Play ball and don’t get your feelings hurt because a coach yelled at you. How many of you guys got their face masked jerked around d by a coach? It used to be normal to jump players for making boneheaded mistakes.

Who said Hayball’s feelings were hurt?

 

[Holy Avenger]

Alvin dropped 3 passes... why didn't Rizzi eat his lunch? Is this another case of only certain people get held to the same standard? Just sayin...

Not taking sides one way or the other ... but in one of Earl Weaver's books he said that he never got on a player for a physical mistake. Of course a player didn't mean to boot the ball or throw it wide of first and so on. He did holler at guys for mental mistakes, which is what it appears that Hayball had.

I will say that the organization decided to move on from Thomas Morestead in 2021, who I think is one of the top 25 special teams players in NFL history. So I don't feel that sorry for the team if punting isn't where they'd like it. They made their bed here. Rizzi was running special teams when we parted ways with TM and while it was probably more Mickey's decision, you know, if Rizzi finds working with more inexperienced players to be frustrating, I get it. For a million and a half more they could have paid Morestead what he is worth and not have to worry about punting once this year.

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

Yeah well, I didn't approve of Mora being SO DAMN conservative with play calling when we had the Dome Patrol. I didn't approve of his stupid clock management with 45 seconds left during the San Fran game in 92 in San Fran.