Joe Brady withdraws from Saints HC search (18 Viewers)

[DSnfla]

1. Kingsbury,
2.McCarthy
3. Moore

Kingsbury has growing experience and is still a young offensive mind and an ascending coach in this league.

McCarthy is a proven coach who can right the ship and has a good staff he could bring along with him (Schotienhemer not included).

Moore is a young offensive mind and a coach's son who's only gained more experience in this league as an OC and working under multiple coaches who have been successful, which adds to his influence and idea of what works.

Kingsbury was in my top 5, but I think he wants another yr under Quinn. I read where he said he learned a lot under Quinn. I think he stays in Wash unless they defy the odds as win the SB

 

[DSnfla]

Maybe Brady knows that he won't have a good chance to succeed in NO.

Or maybe Brady does not interview well and does not want to be passed over by 3 teams this cycle

 

[DSnfla]

He did, but he also said don't listen to him on who should be the HC and that he didn't have a strong opinion since he thought hiring DA was a good hire and it turned out he was wrong.

Nick says " I don't Know " more than any guy I ever heard of that gets paid to have an opinion

 

[Elvis]

Or maybe Brady does not interview well and does not want to be passed over by 3 teams this cycle

Are you hoping that saying this over and over again so it becomes the narrative?

 

[DSnfla]

He probably got word McCarthy is favored and the other options closed, so what’s he supposed to say?

Exactly, Since he didn't get any requests for 2nd interviews with CHI and JAX, if he comes here and interviews and gets passed by it's not a good look for him

 

[sfidc3]

Brady is 35 years old. He can put up three or four more years of skins on the wall and still be the wunderkind.

Coming to New Orleans could have a huge upside for a guy like Brady. You turn it around here, you're a legend. But -- to be frank -- the chances that it wouldn't work out with the Saints are high enough that he just doesn't need to roll the dice right now. Imagine being 37 or 38 and washing out as an NFL head coach. Josh McDaniels did that and had to wait 12 more years for his next opportunity.

This is a very reasonable take....unfortunately.....

I'm not sure this is something to get out of shape over. Brady was my first choice, but I think McCarthy is the safest bet. You get a coach who is a winner, experienced and knows how to build a team.

Now if MM drops out, then I'd be concerned.

I'm not terribly worried yet.

Yup, I feel exactly the same, I think they better be prepared to offer MM likely more than what he is worth.....

Or maybe Brady does not interview well and does not want to be passed over by 3 teams this cycle

Maybe you missed the part where Brady withdrew himself from consideration, and yes, it has to be because he suddenly realized he doesn't interview to good (or something) but please, before I say continue to spread BS about him, do you have a source for your claim above?

 

[REBELMAX]

Brady wasn’t getting the job

He knew he wasn’t getting the job. He declined the interview - leaked it to make himself look good and make the saints look bad.

Sean hated him. Probably bc he reminded him of himself.


How would Brady know he wasn’t getting the job ?

I’d start w his agent and see who else his agent represents and maybe that agent represents another candidate for this job.

 

[St. Geezy]

Brady wasn’t getting the job

He knew he wasn’t getting the job. He declined the interview - leaked it to make himself look good and make the saints look bad.

Sean hated him. Probably bc he reminded him of himself.


How would Brady know he wasn’t getting the job ?

I’d start w his agent and see who else his agent represents and maybe that agent represents another candidate for this job.

Yep. Been hinting at it for weeks. Brady just isn’t what people think. He’s not HC material currently. He’d have a very hard time being taken seriously in charge of a full team.

Courtesy, due diligence interview at best.

 

[Doug B]

I’d start w his agent and see who else his agent represents and maybe that agent represents another candidate for this job.

Joe Brady is with former Bears' DE Trace Armstrong's Athletes First management group. Found an interesting piece about Athletes First's influence on the Bears' recent hires ... nothing germane to Brady in this article, but an interesting quick read.

Whatever the timing, [Matt] Eberflus' firing followed a trend of failed Bears coaches. But his 2022 hiring was part of another pattern, too, one that both the Bears' fan base and NFL commissioner Roger Goodell have now clocked -- with concern.

Since 2018, agent and ex-Chicago defensive end Trace Armstrong and his agency, Athletes First, have represented two fired Bears head coaches, Matt Nagy and Eberflus; three fired offensive coordinators, Mark Helfrich, Luke Getsy and Shane Waldron; as well as current general manager Ryan Poles.

"I've never seen one agent have so much influence on one team and had so little success, but they keep going back and taking his guys," said one coaching agent, who requested anonymity to speak freely on the topic. "And we all kind of shake our heads like, have they not figured this out yet?"

Per the league office's internal data, Armstrong is one of six coaching agents who represented more than one head coach, coordinator or general manager for the same club going into the 2023 season, the most recent data available. The others are Frank Bauer, Richmond Flowers III, Bob Lamonte, Jimmy Sexton and Rick Smith.

Are NFL teams letting agents impact coach hiring? Why the league cares

The struggling Bears are among the teams with a pattern of hiring people with the same agent. The NFL has concerns about the implications.

www.espn.com

 

[Snakehead]

Joe Brady is with former Bears' DE Trace Armstrong's Athletes First management group. Found an interesting piece about Athletes First's influence on the Bears' recent hires ... nothing germane to Brady in this article, but an interesting quick read.

Are NFL teams letting agents impact coach hiring? Why the league cares

The struggling Bears are among the teams with a pattern of hiring people with the same agent. The NFL has concerns about the implications.

www.espn.com

Yes, and so far I can't find another one of our HC candidates who is also represented by Athlete's First.

I can't find who Rizzi or Moore's agent is, so maybe one of them.

 

[sfbaysaint]

Or maybe Brady does not interview well and does not want to be passed over by 3 teams this cycle

That is what Saints should believe in... instead of wondering why no one is committing to them.

 

[Tater]

Wonder how much AK is paying these guys off just to get the coach he wants in Rizzi

 

[oodank]

Let me know when someone turns down an actual offer to become the next HC...I'll be here waiting.

 

[DSnfla]

This is a very reasonable take....unfortunately.....


Yup, I feel exactly the same, I think they better be prepared to offer MM likely more than what he is worth.....



Maybe you missed the part where Brady withdrew himself from consideration, and yes, it has to be because he suddenly realized he doesn't interview to good (or something) but please, before I say continue to spread BS about him, do you have a source for your claim above?

So Brady got 3 interview requests. He did 3 virtual ones and only got 1 request for a 2nd interview, from us. He got passed over for the Chi and the Jax job. With the indications that McCarthy wants the Saints job and he's probably the front runner, you really think it would look favorably on Brady for him to get passed over for the 3rd time??

 

[DSnfla]

Brady wasn’t getting the job

He knew he wasn’t getting the job. He declined the interview - leaked it to make himself look good and make the saints look bad.

Sean hated him. Probably bc he reminded him of himself.


How would Brady know he wasn’t getting the job ?

I’d start w his agent and see who else his agent represents and maybe that agent represents another candidate for this job.

But wait, don't you know that to some people on here Brady is the 2nd coming of Lombardi and Walsh combined??? ( Sarcasm Off)