Kamara tests positive for COVID (1 Viewer)

[CowtownSaint]

Look, he's a grown arse man. I don't care what ANY of them do in in their free time, as long as they are being lawful. Nope, I seen nothing about him hanging out at clubs and as for the pic he posted where he riding his BICYCLE with kids, meh. If he did break protocols he may owe his teammates an apology, but he doesn't owe me anything.

So if your running a business, and your paying someone a big amount of money to be your number 1 driver to ship out and send out packages and you have an Xmas long haul that you specifically pay this guy more to do because of his skill set. And he goes out abs gets a DUI let’s say, csnt drive. Package delivery may go but probably not on time or properly and it has screwed up your business your customers, everything.

now that guy is going to be in trouble!!

what he does in his off time isn’t our concern,UNLESS IT EFFECTS THE TEAM. This is the same thing as described. Sorry man if he’s going to the club holding 3 women at a time with no mask, there gonna be backlash! Your a grown arse man you would think you could connect the dots on this a little bit.

when your personal things effect your professional life then yes there are things that need to be answered. That’s with anything in life man. Not just this situation.

and yes in the example described above it effects the customers (fans) just as much as the business. Go a bit further, what if that guy that got a DUI also injured another driver being drunk that night by reckless decisions? Do you not believe in accountability?

 

[SaintsFanatic]

can we at least get pics of the women?

 

[CowtownSaint]

can we at least get pics of the women?

On this very thread lol

 

[cue180]

Welcome to a virus. You can’t hide from it. The masks prevent little to none. And the numbers are proof on this. You go out and see people wearing masks. Then look at the # of cases.

Glad you are doing okay.

The research is out there if you look. There isn’t a definitive proof that masks work effectively. You can look at numbers in states that have had strong lockdown and mandatory mask mandates and states that were not so strict. In some instances the states with stronger lockdowns have higher percentage of positive cases. In most comparisons, there is not much difference.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

So if your running a business, and your paying someone a big amount of money to be your number 1 driver to ship out and send out packages and you have an Xmas long haul that you specifically pay this guy more to do because of his skill set. And he goes out abs gets a DUI let’s say, csnt drive. Package delivery may go but probably not on time or properly and it has screwed up your business your customers, everything.

now that guy is going to be in trouble!!

what he does in his off time isn’t our concern,UNLESS IT EFFECTS THE TEAM. This is the same thing as described. Sorry man if he’s going to the club holding 3 women at a time with no mask, there gonna be backlash! Your a grown arse man you would think you could connect the dots on this a little bit.

when your personal things effect your professional life then yes there are things that need to be answered. That’s with anything in life man. Not just this situation.

and yes in the example described above it effects the customers (fans) just as much as the business. Go a bit further, what if that guy that got a DUI also injured another driver being drunk that night by reckless decisions? Do you not believe in accountability?

What an asinine analogy.

First of all, you don't even know where he was when that particular pic was taken, he could be in a club or in his basement. Either way, yes, it was a bad decision, but he's breaking no laws.

Secondly, he's in the entertainment business, he's not providing a service to customers. You are choosing to put too much of yourself into this form of entertainment and you are incorrectly holding these athletes to the same same standard that you would hold normal employees, they are not employees they are contracted by teams to entertain audiences. Now the team may hold him accountable for his actions and that is fine, but for me, as a fan, to be all pissed off and judging him for playing with kids or doing whatever he was doing on HIS Christmas night is just irrational.

 

[CowtownSaint]

What an asinine analogy.

First of all, you don't even know where he was when that particular pic was taken, he could be in a club or in his basement. Either way, yes, it was a bad decision, but he's breaking no laws.

Secondly, he's in the entertainment business, he's not providing a service to customers. You are choosing to put too much of yourself into this form of entertainment and you are incorrectly holding these athletes to the same same standard that you would hold normal employees, they are not employees they are contracted by teams to entertain audiences. Now the team may hold him accountable for his actions and that is fine, but for me, as a fan, to be all pissed off and judging him for playing with kids or doing whatever he was doing on HIS Christmas night is just irrational.

- This attitude is why Covid is running wild in the USA, no offence.
- No he’s not an entertainer, he’s Paid to play football games and now he’s out for 2 games and potentially infected other teammates. His JOB is to be ready to play football. (Incase your lost, now he cant)
- Breaking Laws and Having Regard for Protocols of the league or other human beings are different things. It’s asinine you can’t understand the difference, but then see my first point. Not breaking the law doesn’t mean it’s not an error or mistake or has consequences.
- I hold him to the same standard I hold myself, if I’m paid fo do my job, and I act selfishly taking risks that effect my ability to do my job then yes I’m going to take sheet.I’m not trying to hurl insults but have you ever been in a position of leadership or responsibility in your professional life? It sounds like you really don’t understand this point.
- I’m not sure holding 3 women in a club is “playing with kids” but anyways I’m not upset with him. I think he messed up. I think he needs to own it. Why I’m upset is posters like you and others actually think my post of accountability is wrong.Again I swear, it makes me question what amount of responsibility some people have had in life to not even be irked by this whole thing.

Stop talking like the guy is Tony Danza. If you think I’m pouring my own investment into the team to much, let me remind you, without fans, either in person or on TV, there is no football, no money, and. I big lucrative contracts. That speaks for everything not just football! My god it’s simple economics 101, Business 101.

anyways your entitled to your opinion, same as the others, but again, doesn’t make it correct. If you think it’s okay for him to miss a playoff game on something avoidable more power to you, but I would bet large amounts of money your in the minority.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

- This attitude is why Covid is running wild in the USA, no offence.
- No he’s not an entertainer, he’s Paid to play football games and now he’s out for 2 games and potentially infected other teammates. His JOB is to be ready to play football. (Incase your lost, now he cant)
- Breaking Laws and Having Regard for Protocols of the league or other human beings are different things. It’s asinine you can’t understand the difference, but then see my first point. Not breaking the law doesn’t mean it’s not an error or mistake or has consequences.
- I hold him to the same standard I hold myself, if I’m paid fo do my job, and I act selfishly taking risks that effect my ability to do my job then yes I’m going to take sheet.I’m not trying to hurl insults but have you ever been in a position of leadership or responsibility in your professional life? It sounds like you really don’t understand this point.
- I’m not sure holding 3 women in a club is “playing with kids” but anyways I’m not upset with him. I think he messed up. I think he needs to own it. Why I’m upset is posters like you and others actually think my post of accountability is wrong.Again I swear, it makes me question what amount of responsibility some people have had in life to not even be irked by this whole thing.

Stop talking like the guy is Tony Danza. If you think I’m pouring my own investment into the team to much, let me remind you, without fans, either in person or on TV, there is no football, no money, and. I big lucrative contracts. That speaks for everything not just football! My god it’s simple economics 101, Business 101.

anyways your entitled to your opinion, same as the others, but again, doesn’t make it correct. If you think it’s okay for him to miss a playoff game on something avoidable more power to you, but I would bet large amounts of money your in the minority.

You should read what you posted and really think about it!!!

- No he’s not an entertainer, he’s Paid to play football games...

If you think I’m pouring my own investment into the team to much, let me remind you, without fans, either in person or on TV, there is no football, no money, and. I big lucrative contracts. That speaks for everything not just football! My god it’s simple economics 101, Business 101.

What is pro sports to you??? A business?

And what sort of business relies on fans to be successful?

Would that be an entertainment business?

As for your COVID rant, you are right, it is a serious problem which is why I'm not overly concerned that this form of entertainment for me has been effected by it, it was inevitable that it would hit key Saints players. I am more worried about the population, as a whole, than I am about my favorite football team.

As for your assumptions about my leadership abilities, you couldn't be more wrong. Lets just say that there are literally hundreds of men and women in this country that would gladly tell you so.

 

[Igordão]

You should read what you posted and really think about it!!!



What is pro sports to you??? A business?

And what sort of business relies on fans to be successful?

Would that be an entertainment business?

As for your COVID rant, you are right, it is a serious problem which is why I'm not overly concerned that this form of entertainment for me has been effected by it, it was inevitable that it would hit key Saints players. I am more worried about the population, as a whole, than I am about my favorite football team.

As for your assumptions about my leadership abilities, you couldn't be more wrong. Lets just say that there are literally hundreds of men and women in this country that would gladly tell you so.

What kind of business survive without clients?

 

[BooBirdSaint]

Here's hoping that because the NFL messed over the 2 seeds this season they at least get a Sunday game on the first weekend.

Otherwise, No Kamara is a game changer.

 

[CowtownSaint]

You should read what you posted and really think about it!!!



What is pro sports to you??? A business?

And what sort of business relies on fans to be successful?

Would that be an entertainment business?

As for your COVID rant, you are right, it is a serious problem which is why I'm not overly concerned that this form of entertainment for me has been effected by it, it was inevitable that it would hit key Saints players. I am more worried about the population, as a whole, than I am about my favorite football team.

As for your assumptions about my leadership abilities, you couldn't be more wrong. Lets just say that there are literally hundreds of men and women in this country that would gladly tell you so.

I’m going to say one thing more as to not elevate this further. But if I was one of those people you talk about, seeing your lax attitude towards this, I would be very very concerned. I’m not saying that to insult you I’m just saying to you if you as a leader think these lax things in regard to Covid are okay and you condone those actions, whether an “entertainer” and athlete or an employee, that I would be very concerned with your definition of leadership.

You as a leader can agree that if you have hundreds of people your responsible for, you probably, as their leader, shouldn’t be going out of your way(during Covid) to take unnecessary risks that could potentially result in I dunno, say infections on the people that rely on you?

I think what’s lost in this is if he just got it you know and that’s not something to be upset about. But based on what’s been posted, it looks like he messed up. Regardless of if he is on the team or not the issue in him messing up is there. There is too much of this in the USA.

leadership is doing what’s right no matter the sacrifice. That’s what character and leadership is. I’m glad to hear you have people relying on you. Just because he’s a football player doesn’t make the mistake more or less I would have said the same thing to one of the people that work for me or that I coach.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

What kind of business survive without clients?

That wasn't the point.

 

[efil4stnias]

The research is out there if you look. There isn’t a definitive proof that masks work effectively. You can look at numbers in states that have had strong lockdown and mandatory mask mandates and states that were not so strict. In some instances the states with stronger lockdowns have higher percentage of positive cases. In most comparisons, there is not much difference.

Do you agree the mask reduces the amount of droplets expelled?

If so, do you agree the less amount of droplets equates to a lesser chance of getting.

It's really that simple.

 

[NewOrleansBoy]

I’m going to say one thing more as to not elevate this further. But if I was one of those people you talk about, seeing your lax attitude towards this, I would be very very concerned. I’m not saying that to insult you I’m just saying to you if you as a leader think these lax things in regard to Covid are okay and you condone those actions, whether an “entertainer” and athlete or an employee, that I would be very concerned with your definition of leadership.

You as a leader can agree that if you have hundreds of people your responsible for, you probably, as their leader, shouldn’t be going out of your way(during Covid) to take unnecessary risks that could potentially result in I dunno, say infections on the people that rely on you?

I think what’s lost in this is if he just got it you know and that’s not something to be upset about. But based on what’s been posted, it looks like he messed up. Regardless of if he is on the team or not the issue in him messing up is there. There is too much of this in the USA.

leadership is doing what’s right no matter the sacrifice. That’s what character and leadership is. I’m glad to hear you have people relying on you. Just because he’s a football player doesn’t make the mistake more or less I would have said the same thing to one of the people that work for me or that I coach.

they say 30 is the new 20

since he’s my age, 25, that’s the new 15.

he don’t know better.

I’m upset. Putting the whole season and team in jeapordy

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

I’m going to say one thing more as to not elevate this further. But if I was one of those people you talk about, seeing your lax attitude towards this, I would be very very concerned. I’m not saying that to insult you I’m just saying to you if you as a leader think these lax things in regard to Covid are okay and you condone those actions, whether an “entertainer” and athlete or an employee, that I would be very concerned with your definition of leadership.

You as a leader can agree that if you have hundreds of people your responsible for, you probably, as their leader, shouldn’t be going out of your way(during Covid) to take unnecessary risks that could potentially result in I dunno, say infections on the people that rely on you?

I think what’s lost in this is if he just got it you know and that’s not something to be upset about. But based on what’s been posted, it looks like he messed up. Regardless of if he is on the team or not the issue in him messing up is there. There is too much of this in the USA.

leadership is doing what’s right no matter the sacrifice. That’s what character and leadership is. I’m glad to hear you have people relying on you. Just because he’s a football player doesn’t make the mistake more or less I would have said the same thing to one of the people that work for me or that I coach.

I'm not laxed about COVID, I don't believe that these games should be happening at all, the games themselves are putting people at a greater risk. I have never said the team shouldn't hold him accountable, I am saying fans are not entitled to an apology from him. You are acting like he owes you something.

You are showing all this outrage over the Kamara positive test, but where was your outrage over the 50+ positive test for the other players across the league? What about the hardships their families are facing? Yeah, they are paid well, but I betcha there are a bunch of them are thinking whether or not if this season was really worth the mental toll they are taking.

And then you say "I’m not saying that to insult you" and follow that up by insulting me, you are making more false assumptions about me than you are about Kamara. There is nothing lax about anything I do, in fact, I would have shut down all sports until we had at least a vaccine for this virus. That's what leaders do, they are not afraid to make the hard/unpopular decisions... whether they're right or wrong.

edit: Just read this at NFL.com

COVID-19 season taking heavy toll on NFL players' significant others: 'It's changed our lives completely'

www.nfl.com

Much of the outside focus on the NFL has been on how players and coaches are handling the behavioral changes the league imposed in hopes of mitigating spread of the virus. But equally important -- though most times overlooked by the public -- is the impact the pandemic is having on the mental health of the wives and significant others.
In September, The Journal of the American Medical Association Network Open published a survey that found depression symptoms had more than tripled during the pandemic, climbing from 8.5 percent before COVID-19 to 27.8 percent during the pandemic. It's unknown whether any of the slightly more than 6,500 adult participants were wives or live-in partners of NFL players, but it would not come as surprise if that were the case, considering sport is often a microcosm of society.
For many of these women, the stresses and pressures they feel are similar to what people across the country are experiencing during the pandemic: the need to limit exposure to outside sources, the demands of homeschooling young children, the sense of longing from being separated from extended family. And yet, their situations are relatively unique because how they handle the pandemic could have consequences far beyond their own household. Any lapse in judgment could potentially jeopardize not only the livelihood of their spouses, but also the livelihood of teammates, coaches and club employees if the league is forced to cancel games or shut down the season, possibilities that could have an impact beyond the 2020 campaign. That reality weighs on them.

 

[Taker597]

Please tell me Kamara didn't just score 6 TDs and then spent his whole off day riding a bicycle in a crowded arse downtowns with some kids and going to an in door club chasing tail like we aren't 9 days away from a playoff game during a Pandemic.

Like I really can't believe it...

So, maybe this catches the NFL's attention and they investigate. Then, they'll probably drop a suspension... Because we know how much the NFL like us...


This is absolutely... I'm in like that laughing denial stage... This can't really just happen.