League insiders tells Tony Pauline that Aaron Glenn will end up being Saints Head Coach [Edit: Underhill says no decision is close to being made]

[Nolan]

Anyone remember when the early indication was that Dennis Allen was the favorite, but then reports were that the Saints were going to open it up?

The end result was quite a few sham interviews, and it was Allen's job all along.

 

[sfidc3]

It's not a question of supporting Loomis or not. Most, including me would like him replaced as the GM, but the reality is that is highly unlikely to happen. And while Loomis has many problems, he has also successfully hired a HC in the past and helped to build a Championship roster and a roster that was competing for championships for 15 years. He is almost 70, and maybe he won't pick the right HC this time. But, that doesn't mean he can't get it right and it doesn't mean that every rumor from any source is worth panicking and crying about.

The post from Underhill tells you the situation with the coaching search. The search is not over and they plan to look at a wide range of candidates. In the end, we can't change whether Loomis is GM or who he hires as HC. And frankly we won't know for at least a year after that whether it was the right choice or not. I don't get the point of freaking out about every single rumor until then. But, some people do love to wallow in misery and pessimism which they are obviously free to do. But it's going to make it a really long offseason around here if every thread is just filled with variations of "Loomis sucks", "we can't win as long as Loomis is here", "doesn't matter as long as Loomis is GM", etc.

I agree that he probably won't be replaced, my hope (and it's a faint one) is that he will step down.....and while I'm not panicking or freaking out (I honestly don't care enough to do so any longer) I think it's his really questionable behavior that has turned folks against him.....

And the fact that there are Saints fans that defended him after that clown show of season ending PC last year certainly rubbed me the wrong way.....

And I never once stated we can't win with Loomis here, but I sure would like to take a chance on a younger/saner GM.....

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

Hope that’s accurate and that the following is not:

Hmmm...an actual journalist vs. a clickbait rumor mill. I wonder, whom should I trust? Golly gee, this is all so confusing!

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Hmmm...an actual journalist vs. a clickbait rumor mill. I wonder, whom should I trust? Golly gee, this is all so confusing!

I think you’ve officially passed Tribune as the most condescending poster on this site. lol


I hope it does end up just being clickbait, would rather not have Glenn as the HC, I don’t think he’s even a good coordinator.

I’m not confused, it’s not that big of a deal to me. As far as journalistic integrity, I have zero faith in any of em.

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

I think you’ve officially passed Tribune as the most condescending poster on this site. lol

I hope it does end up just being clickbait, would rather not have Glenn as the HC, I don’t think he’s even a good coordinator.

"Audiences know what they expect and that is all they are prepared to believe in.".​

Tom Stoppard knows a thing or two about a thing or two.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

"Audiences know what they expect and that is all they are prepared to believe in.".​

Tom Stoppard knows a thing or two about a thing or two.

Have a good one bud.

 

[St. Widge]

I agree that he probably won't be replaced, my hope (and it's a faint one) is that he will step down.....and while I'm not panicking or freaking out (I honestly don't care enough to do so any longer) I think it's his really questionable behavior that has turned folks against him.....

And the fact that there are Saints fans that defended him after that clown show of season ending PC last year certainly rubbed me the wrong way.....

And I never once stated we can't win with Loomis here, but I sure would like to take a chance on a younger/saner GM.....

I didn't say that you did say that we can't win with Loomis here and I would like a younger GM too. But many are acting like it's all doom and gloom if Loomis stays and feel the need to state that in every single thread and attack anyone who doesn't preface everything they say with "obviously we are forked as long as Loomis is GM, but . . . ".

Frankly, I don't care if Loomis is an egomaniac, insane, butt crevasse or not. All I care is if he the rebuilds the team and if they win. Payton was a prick but he won. Many great coaches and GMs are.

It's just tiring and makes a place that is supposed to be a fun place to talk about Saints football into a chore that isn't fun at all.

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

Aaron talking yesterday about the attack in NOLA before talking about the Lions.

I think we should be fair to the man -- just because he coached with the Saints at one point doesn't make him automatically more of a yes man than Sean Payton or anyone else is.

The guy is a very accomplished professional. He deserves a fair shake, and besides this story is unsourced speculation

What makes you think Payton was a yes man? Loomis was the yes man to Payton running the show. Same thing with DA. Loomis does what they want him to do. But now that there is no HC, it does seem like Loomis is trying to get a yes man which I'm against.

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

I think the first part is fair, but I'm not sure how Glenn is really an insular hire. He only spent one year here as a player and 4 years as DB coach. He spent most of his career with the Jets and the last 3 years coaching in Detroit. Yes, he has some connections to the team and knows the City, but I don't see him as a continuation of anything. And I can't see someone who coached under Campbell and is a former good NFL player being a yes man for any GM.

I mean it's not like Glenn hasn't been talked about as a top HC candidate for the last couple years and there are rumors that he really wants the Jets job.

Also, I don't know that even DA was Loomis' yes man. I think it was more that Loomis was DAs yes man, trying to get Watson for him and getting Carr for him. And that giving DA what he wanted and failing to fire DA earlier is Loomis' true major flaw.

Exactly! Loomis does what the HC tells him to do. He did what Payton wanted and he did what DA wanted.

 

[Snakehead]

Give me a

Exactly! Loomis does what the HC tells him to do. He did what Payton wanted and he did what DA wanted.

This is another reason I'd prefer Vrabel as HC. He knows talent and knows how to build a team. He could unleash ML to get the players he needs to do just that.

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

Give me a


This is another reason I'd prefer Vrabel as HC. He knows talent and knows how to build a team. He could unleash ML to get the players he needs to do just that.

I'm still not entirely sold on him, but you did help me thaw on him. I just need to marinate on it much longer than 30 minutes.

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

Ummmmm……well, I’m a fan of Glenn, and wouldn’t be opposed to the hire.
However, it was reported that ML will hire someone he “knows”, along with the other report of Glenn having the inside track. Sure, Glenn and DA are two different people, although making a hire based on replicating the same formula of success, is a product of status quo. You don’t have to have the same individuals for something to be status quo. It’s more of the system and process, that lends credence to it.

Plus, if other potential candidates get the feeling that Glenn will ultimately be the hire, then why should they even care to interview with us, or take us seriously????
These reports, whether true or not, is doing more harm than good. We could be missing out on other great hires

Do you really think a HC candidate is paying attention to what some no name reporter is saying when he can just call up ML and see what's up?

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

I think you’ve officially passed Tribune as the most condescending poster on this site. lol


I hope it does end up just being clickbait, would rather not have Glenn as the HC, I don’t think he’s even a good coordinator.

I’m not confused, it’s not that big of a deal to me. As far as journalistic integrity, I have zero faith in any of em.

I'm not entirely sure why people were fans of Glenn while he was here. He coached the DB's and our guys could NEVER get their heads turned around. We'd also always give up big plays. He does seem to be doing better in Detroit, but I don't watch enough of their games to know if he's improved or not.

 

[SweetT]

Do you really think a HC candidate is paying attention to what some no name reporter is saying when he can just call up ML and see what's up?

It starts with one report and then it gets copied to multiple outlets, then so on and so on. It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not, it’s scuttlebutt that would be addressed. Plus, with ML hiring an in house candidate like DA, it very well could be believable to some people