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[Mr. Sparkle]

Eh.

Multiverses just lower the stakes for every single story.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Eh.

Multiverses just lower the stakes for every single story.

I’m not sure where the idea came from the stakes can only come from significant and final deaths
Breaking Bad the stakes were about whether or not WW could hold his family together
Similar with The Sopranos (or even something like Ozark)

this season Loki was confronted with his ineptitude (essentially) and he summoned the strength to change
His reward was to get double crossed by himself- WAY more fascinating than ‘did Mobius die?’

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

I saw this on youtube just now, "ThanosCopter was so op the TVA couldn’t let it be in the sacred timeline"

 

[Saint by the Bay]

Eh.

Multiverses just lower the stakes for every single story.

In this case I think it raises the stakes because it’s not one universe Kang will be conquering, it’s all of them. Thanks put the universe at risk, Kang will put the universes at risk. Those are higher stakes.

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

I’m not sure where the idea came from the stakes can only come from significant and final deaths
Breaking Bad the stakes were about whether or not WW could hold his family together
Similar with The Sopranos (or even something like Ozark)

this season Loki was confronted with his ineptitude (essentially) and he summoned the strength to change
His reward was to get double crossed by himself- WAY more fascinating than ‘did Mobius die?’

Because in real life the highest takes usually involve significant and final deaths. The threat of death to one of the main characters was laced all throughout BB, Sopranos, and Ozark (see Ozark season finale, Sopranos series finale, Hank in Ozymandias)

It can have its pluses (plusses?) and I liked the series overall but the idea of an infinite number of [bad guy] battling good guys just kind of makes my head hurt. Also the (new) Mobius hitting (old) Loki with the canned I Do Not Recognize You Who Are You? bit at the end was eyeroll-inducing.

Its just not my thing - I am a self-declared linear thinker without much imagination.

 

[nolaspe]

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

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I want to know if Miss Minutes was lying about allowing Loki to defeat the Avengers, kill Thanos and get the Infinity Gauntlet. How would they be able to do all that while having Sylvie be with him and not cause nexus events? I guess we'll never know but I wanted to focus on that a little bit more.

 

[nolaspe]

 

[nolaspe]

 

[Taurus]

In this case I think it raises the stakes because it’s not one universe Kang will be conquering, it’s all of them. Thanks put the universe at risk, Kang will put the universes at risk. Those are higher stakes.

Yet there's an equally infinite number of 'good' Kangs. It should come down to how many of which kind can be gathered at once...from SquidKang to GrootKang to RegularHumanKang.
He who has the most Kangs in one spot wins.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

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I want to know if Miss Minutes was lying about allowing Loki to defeat the Avengers, kill Thanos and get the Infinity Gauntlet. How would they be able to do all that while having Sylvie be with him and not cause nexus events? I guess we'll never know but I wanted to focus on that a little bit more.

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reportedly, the moving of Kang into full antagonist was a covid thing - that he was actually going to only show up in a mid-credit reveal like most speculated (that same reporting didn't come with a reason why)
also no specific information about what would have been in Kang's place, but biggest guess was Miss Minutes having a much bigger interaction - the previews showed Loki sitting on the throne in Asgard, which we never saw in the show, so maybe MM showed Loki and Sylvie what their temptation actually looked like

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Yet there's an equally infinite number of 'good' Kangs. It should come down to how many of which kind can be gathered at once...from SquidKang to GrootKang to RegularHumanKang.
He who has the most Kangs in one spot wins.

'good'

i think the dynamic of the show is much more chaos v order than good v evil
he who Remains posited that a 'benign' dictator keeping order (and by happenstance, killing trillions) is better that just rolling the dice
he said 'we are all villains here' - and from his ramblings, his considering himself a villain (esp in relation to the other 2) only seems to work bc he knows he's moving Sylvie into position to kill him and unleash chais

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

'good'

i think the dynamic of the show is much more chaos v order than good v evil
he who Remains posited that a 'benign' dictator keeping order (and by happenstance, killing trillions) is better that just rolling the dice
he said 'we are all villains here' - and from his ramblings, his considering himself a villain (esp in relation to the other 2) only seems to work bc he knows he's moving Sylvie into position to kill him and unleash chais

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In a way he's right. Assuming he wasn't lying, he's saying that if he didn't do what he did then all of the Kang's would've destroyed every universe and there would be no more people. It's a solution that does work but he is still killing people all the time by pruning the branches. The thing he either didn't consider or chose not to do(which would definitely make him a villain)is why not just kill the all the Kang variants? Supposedly it was them directly that was waging the multiversal war so if he just kills all of them and not try to conquer other universes then we could've had a healthy multiverse the whole time. Or he could also kill himself at the end and eliminate all the Kang's thus protecting the multiverse from a war.

 

[DaveXA]

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I want to know if Miss Minutes was lying about allowing Loki to defeat the Avengers, kill Thanos and get the Infinity Gauntlet. How would they be able to do all that while having Sylvie be with him and not cause nexus events? I guess we'll never know but I wanted to focus on that a little bit more.

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I'm with you there. I would have liked to see more on that, but with it being the final episode and limited time, I can understand not getting too involved. I think the point of that was to show that someone out there is possibly capable of doing what Miss Minutes was saying.

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

I just remembered something. They claimed that they would explain how time travel works with the TVA but we never get an explanation on time travel, it's all about the multiverse. Having said that, I thought of something a minute ago.

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They could've gone a completely different route not involving Kang that would've been cool. Have Loki and Sylvie except Miss Minutes deal. They then show him beating the Avengers, killing Thanos and getting the gauntlet. Him using the gauntlet is then what causes the multiverse of madness. I think I'd prefer what we got but I'd love a whole alternate side episode where that happens.