Loomis’s inability (6 Viewers)

[Boy_of_wonder75]

Last I checked we needed one too.

And what has that to do with the comment i was posting on?

 

[Derek_B]

I've seen quite a few mocks where we take a CB in the first which is mind boggling to me. Can you imagine this board, if we traded Lattimore who helps his team get to the NFC Championship (maybe even win it and go to the Superbowl) then they draft aa CB #9, and that CB doesn't even end up being a shut down corner?

Why is it something I can see happening with Loomis?

AJB and Treylon Burks all over again.

 

[texasjefe]

Oh, is this the thread where Mickey is being rescued from blame for Dennis Allen's failures?

I don't care who you are. Anyone GM'ing a team with 4 non-playoff seasons in a row, averaging 7.5 wins (stuck in mediocrity), in dead cap hell eating up 20% of the cap annually, QB room unstable, no young stars on the roster, irrelevant league-wide, over-injured year-over-year, hired a guy who was instantly the worst coach in the NFL the moment they shipped CJ out and then did not supervise that coach, and got railroaded by the owner to fire that coach...

You'd be fired or should be fired in most places.

And that's a component that fuels ratcheted up criticism against Loomis. If he's going to be untouchable by way of not being held to account, then the fans are going to voice their anger.

Mickey's still the guy. He's a grown-arse man who has to go get a coach and clean up this all-organizational mess made wholly on his watch. Either get it done, or go. Enough with the blame-shifting and rescuing.

 

[REBELMAX]

Thanks for actually giving me a name, and not just more Loomis hate. I'm not against replacing Loomis but it has to be for the right candidate

His replacement is already in the building. Never seen his name mentioned here.

 

[kcirdor]

His replacement is already in the building. Never seen his name mentioned here.

• Director of operations – Derek Stamnos
• Director of pro personnel – Michael Parenton
• Director of football administration – Scott Kuhn
• Director of analytics – Zach Stuart
• Senior personnel advisor – Randy Mueller
• Personnel advisor – Dave Ziegler
• VP/assistant general manager – college personnel – Jeff Ireland
• Asst. general manager & vice president of football operations – Khai Harley

have you seen it yet?

 

[REBELMAX]

• Director of operations – Derek Stamnos
• Director of pro personnel – Michael Parenton
• Director of football administration – Scott Kuhn
• Director of analytics – Zach Stuart
• Senior personnel advisor – Randy Mueller
• Personnel advisor – Dave Ziegler
• VP/assistant general manager – college personnel – Jeff Ireland
• Asst. general manager & vice president of football operations – Khai Harley

have you seen it yet?

Yes

 

[kcirdor]

So Khai's name is mentioned often... Ireland as well, Mueller most certainly has been mentioned many times. I'm sure Ziegler has been mentioned, but maybe not.

So, I'm narrowing it down to Kuhn, Stanmos, Parenton, or Stuart.... hmmm. maybe even Ziegler. I assume you can't confirm the actual name.

 

[Jd101]

His replacement is already in the building. Never seen his name mentioned here.

Please don't say Khai

 

[Jd101]

Please don't say Khai

Let's not replace a guy we don't like with the guy he trained. I'm open to any other ideas

 

[StudioSaint]

So Khai's name is mentioned often... Ireland as well, Mueller most certainly has been mentioned many times. I'm sure Ziegler has been mentioned, but maybe not.

So, I'm narrowing it down to Kuhn, Stanmos, Parenton, or Stuart.... hmmm. maybe even Ziegler. I assume you can't confirm the actual name.

My guess is that Rebelmax is talking about Parenton, who's probably a buddy of his from Thibodaux or Tulane and is also his inside source with the Saints for the past 12 years. It would make a lot of pieces of the puzzle fit.

If I guessed wrong, then of course it will be denied. If I guessed right, then of course it will be denied. So I expect a denial is coming either way.

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

My guess is that Rebelmax is talking about Parenton, who's probably a buddy of his from Thibodaux or Tulane and is also his inside source with the Saints for the past 12 years. It would make a lot of pieces of the puzzle fit.

If I guessed wrong, then of course it will be denied. If I guessed right, then of course it will be denied. So I expect a denial is coming either way.

Absolutely no Louisiana or Southern-born folk should hold positions of leadership for the Saints. Northerners or Westerners only, please.

 

[sfidc3]

It may seem like a given now, but there was a debate on who was better: Maye or Daniels. Some people wanted Maye on the Commanders's board. I've said it in numerous posts: I do not think Mick is going anywhere, but I will chime in if someone starts a thread about Mick. We are in bad shape right now, from top to bottom. I'm a realist, and most people on this board are not.

To me, it was a given after JD played his last college football play......there was no question to me he was the best QB coming out, at it wasn't really close.....

Just an average LSU D his last year and they likely win the NC.....

 

[3ParStillDriver]

To me, it was a given after JD played his last college football play......there was no question to me he was the best QB coming out, at it wasn't really close.....

Just an average LSU D his last year and they likely win the NC.....

I feel like I recall scrolling this board around this time last year and there seemed to be quite a few people who said JD wasn’t going to be good in the NFL. I also recall my first thought reading it was “You probably thought Dennis Allen was going to be a good head coach too”.

 

[SweetT]

I don't think that some of you guys understand Mickey Loomis's role as GM. Mickey is the General Manager think about what that says. He manages everyone in the building essentially. He's not the player personnel guy! Again he let's the coaches make those decisions. Is he responsible for their poor decisions ? I guess ultimately, but he doesn't cut anyone. He doesn't keep anyone when it comes to players. That's the coaches job! SO i really think everyone is giving Mickey a lot of grief for the wrong reasons. Is he completely perfect NO but i think he's better than most GM's in the business.........Especially when it comes to cap management. Think about it. The one main thing you can't complain about is our spending. A lot of teams don't even come close to reaching the salary cap. We are NOT CHEAP when it comes to spending. For the record i think all the players contracts are crazy!

Yes, this is true to an extent. Mickey is a numbers guy, but you better believe he presents a list of names (ahead of time), to his coaches, about who may need to be on the chopping block. ML has a plan, 2-3 years out. It may not look like it, but it is true. He leaves it up to the coaches, as to who on the list they would like to keep/cut/trade, but he does place names on the list.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

Yes, this is true to an extent. Mickey is a numbers guy, but you better believe he presents a list of names (ahead of time), to his coaches, about who may need to be on the chopping block. ML has a plan, 2-3 years out. It may not look like it, but it is true. He leaves it up to the coaches, as to who on the list they would like to keep/cut/trade, but he does place names on the list.

I think we all can agree (or at least 99% of us) that his one mistake, which was also incredibly massive was Dennis Allen as head coach.

I mean, I’m still utterly baffled how anyone could watch him head coach the Raiders and say “Yes, I want that disaster happening here”.

Who gets cut, players traded, draft etc I suspect he leans very heavily on the head coach and others and he just makes it happen which is what a good supportive boss does. But the flip side of that is he has to constantly have good talent he’s supporting. Dennis Allen wasn’t it as head coach. To much power to the wrong talent.