Loomis’s inability (1 Viewer)

[DSnfla]

Exactly. There is a Director of Pro Personnel and Director of College Scouting both heavily involved, and now we also have Ziegler and Mueller as a part of the process.

It has always been a collaborative effort, with Mickey mostly just being the tiebreaker if all the men in the room, including himself, can’t agree on a move.

But I'd bet $$$ that the HC trumps all of the scouting dept. And when there's a disagreement ML sides with the HC

 

[SaintswonSBXLIV]

I don’t believe that Loomis strictly does as the head coach says. I believe it’s always been a collaborative effort where compromise exists.

I find it hard to believe that during Payton’s entire tenure the only QB that he wanted to draft high was Patrick Mahomes. I’m purely speculating, but it’s quite odd that he never spent a first or second round pick on a QB with the Saints, but immediately drafts one in the first round with Denver.

It's a collaborative effort, but Loomis's voice is extremely low in comparison to the HC and Ireland,

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

I don’t believe that Loomis strictly does as the head coach says. I believe it’s always been a collaborative effort where compromise exists.

I find it hard to believe that during Payton’s entire tenure the only QB that he wanted to draft high was Patrick Mahomes. I’m purely speculating, but it’s quite odd that he never spent a first or second round pick on a QB with the Saints, but immediately drafts one in the first round with Denver.

Because he needed one. I mean... ??

 

[los226]

Because he needed one. I mean... ??

Last I checked we needed one too.

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

Last I checked we needed one too.

And what has that to do with the comment i was posting on?

 

[Derek_B]

I've seen quite a few mocks where we take a CB in the first which is mind boggling to me. Can you imagine this board, if we traded Lattimore who helps his team get to the NFC Championship (maybe even win it and go to the Superbowl) then they draft aa CB #9, and that CB doesn't even end up being a shut down corner?

Why is it something I can see happening with Loomis?

AJB and Treylon Burks all over again.

 

[texasjefe]

Oh, is this the thread where Mickey is being rescued from blame for Dennis Allen's failures?

I don't care who you are. Anyone GM'ing a team with 4 non-playoff seasons in a row, averaging 7.5 wins (stuck in mediocrity), in dead cap hell eating up 20% of the cap annually, QB room unstable, no young stars on the roster, irrelevant league-wide, over-injured year-over-year, hired a guy who was instantly the worst coach in the NFL the moment they shipped CJ out and then did not supervise that coach, and got railroaded by the owner to fire that coach...

You'd be fired or should be fired in most places.

And that's a component that fuels ratcheted up criticism against Loomis. If he's going to be untouchable by way of not being held to account, then the fans are going to voice their anger.

Mickey's still the guy. He's a grown-arse man who has to go get a coach and clean up this all-organizational mess made wholly on his watch. Either get it done, or go. Enough with the blame-shifting and rescuing.

 

[REBELMAX]

Thanks for actually giving me a name, and not just more Loomis hate. I'm not against replacing Loomis but it has to be for the right candidate

His replacement is already in the building. Never seen his name mentioned here.

 

[kcirdor]

His replacement is already in the building. Never seen his name mentioned here.

• Director of operations – Derek Stamnos
• Director of pro personnel – Michael Parenton
• Director of football administration – Scott Kuhn
• Director of analytics – Zach Stuart
• Senior personnel advisor – Randy Mueller
• Personnel advisor – Dave Ziegler
• VP/assistant general manager – college personnel – Jeff Ireland
• Asst. general manager & vice president of football operations – Khai Harley

have you seen it yet?

 

[REBELMAX]

• Director of operations – Derek Stamnos
• Director of pro personnel – Michael Parenton
• Director of football administration – Scott Kuhn
• Director of analytics – Zach Stuart
• Senior personnel advisor – Randy Mueller
• Personnel advisor – Dave Ziegler
• VP/assistant general manager – college personnel – Jeff Ireland
• Asst. general manager & vice president of football operations – Khai Harley

have you seen it yet?

Yes

 

[kcirdor]

So Khai's name is mentioned often... Ireland as well, Mueller most certainly has been mentioned many times. I'm sure Ziegler has been mentioned, but maybe not.

So, I'm narrowing it down to Kuhn, Stanmos, Parenton, or Stuart.... hmmm. maybe even Ziegler. I assume you can't confirm the actual name.

 

[Jd101]

His replacement is already in the building. Never seen his name mentioned here.

Please don't say Khai

 

[Jd101]

Please don't say Khai

Let's not replace a guy we don't like with the guy he trained. I'm open to any other ideas

 

[StudioSaint]

So Khai's name is mentioned often... Ireland as well, Mueller most certainly has been mentioned many times. I'm sure Ziegler has been mentioned, but maybe not.

So, I'm narrowing it down to Kuhn, Stanmos, Parenton, or Stuart.... hmmm. maybe even Ziegler. I assume you can't confirm the actual name.

My guess is that Rebelmax is talking about Parenton, who's probably a buddy of his from Thibodaux or Tulane and is also his inside source with the Saints for the past 12 years. It would make a lot of pieces of the puzzle fit.

If I guessed wrong, then of course it will be denied. If I guessed right, then of course it will be denied. So I expect a denial is coming either way.