Mikey Loomis: Its "Stupid" to think Dennis Allen has lost the Saints Locker Room (2 Viewers)

[Saint Taysom]

Unfortunately we’ve reached the point where he is also treating the fans like fools….

This is part that gets under my skin the worst. Saints fans have done their time and taken their lumps… To treat us like this is unacceptable

 

[NatureBoy]

It seems like Loomis only wants to see what he wants to see.

In fairness, fans are the same way.

 

[Stalwart385]

You have a lot of fans that can't see past the black and gold glasses. Anyone that questions that is a hater. Your GM doesn't have a meeting with the entire team after the last game of the season when your "team" disobeyed the head coach and called their own play. It doesn't matter what you, me or anyone thinks, 1 + 1 + 1 = 3. I don't care what you want to believe, facts are facts and where there is smoke there is fire.

And sometimes people are just trying to blow smoke up your...

 

[saintsmarchin]

If the "big" names leave.

Then thats all the proof that we need that Loomis is full of sheet.

 

[Elvis]

You probably did, he watched it internally, you watched it through media.

One of those can lead to incorrect assumptions and drawn conclusions.

I really want to watch internal Saints football because the external Saints blow.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

You know who I really feel bad for....the people that own the Black and Gold store on Vets...this is going to break them.

Better slide that LSU sheet over to the Saints side

 

[los226]

Then why does the “culture” that he was suppose to “preserve” have to be “tweaked” this offseason?

 

[Elvis]

I don't know what we were expecting him to say honestly. Would he ever say "Yeah, DA lost the locker room so we're just going to get him a different locker room and hope for the best"? Of course not. He's not making changes and he has to justify it against the prevailing narrative coming out of the last game where the players completely disregarded DA and called their own play. This is 100% the tone deaf response I would expect from a GM that was going to sink another season.

 

[Madmarsha]

Not any more stupid than calling fans stupid.

 

[showtimesaints]

I wouldn't call it stupid, just not intelligent and that lack of intelligence is usually driven by an extreme emotional attachment to a belief fueled by anger. And where anger resides intelligence does not.

DA didn't lose the locker room but Loomis felt the need to meet with the entire team after the last game of the season, something he admittedly almost never does.... Yeah, that tracks.

I don't know what we were expecting him to say honestly. Would he ever say "Yeah, DA lost the locker room so we're just going to get him a different locker room and hope for the best"? Of course not. He's not making changes and he has to justify it against the prevailing narrative coming out of the last game where the players completely disregarded DA and called their own play. This is 100% the tone deaf response I would expect from a GM that was going to sink another season.

The bigger issue here is that ML set the expectation, he did not throw his HC under the bus, he stood up for him and supported him, exactly what he should have done.
What DA did was the complete opposite by throwing his team under the bus and stand united with his players. Dennis Allen chose not to support his team, that was clearly his decision. Whether Mickey sees that as a problem or not I have no idea. But I can guarantee you any effective leadership starts with choosing what is best for your team and supporting them, not dividing them.

 

[Mojomajik9]

I’ll say this. Until the post game presser in the Atlanta game I did not think DA had lost the locker room. If it came out that Winston and the others decided to help Williams a TD to boost his morale or give him love for a tough season I wouldn’t have thought it was a big deal. I think players help their boys. It’s not unheard of. Hell I’ve seen opposing players help a guy set a record. Didn’t a QB basically give up to help Strahan set a record?

Anyway what blew up everything and took such a nice ending to an otherwise crap season and made it 10x worse was DA throwing the players under the bus. Why even admit they did it on their own? Just say “I understand Smith being angry and it’s something we’ll discuss as team later” and leave it at that? Now you look soft and you create fissures in the locker room. Now we start hearing about culture ? Cmon.

I think DA is a solid DC. He’s not cut out to be a HC which requires so much more people skills, finesse and admin abilities in top of coaching abilities.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

He asked an example and I gave him one. I won a lot of races. Long time ago. But really I was just being a intelligent arse. That's not the same as a team sport.

So you never had a coach or a trainer! That's impressive!

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

The bigger issue here is that ML set the expectation, he did not throw his HC under the bus, he stood up for him and supported him, exactly what he should have done.
What DA did was the complete opposite by throwing his team under the bus and stand united with his players. Dennis Allen chose not to support his team, that was clearly his decision. Whether Mickey sees that as a problem or not I have no idea. But I can guarantee you any effective leadership starts with choosing what is best for your team and supporting them, not dividing them.

Can you confirm the players feel he didn’t support them? Why would a coach support players going rogue?

Would MI6 support bond if he went rogue?

 

[ATLien]

"Unsophisticated and lazy". "Stupid". Why the need to use negative terms about his detractors when defending his stance?
I don't know his reasoning, but I will say that usually happens when you know you've got no solid position to stand on.

 

[showtimesaints]

Can you confirm the players feel he didn’t support them? Why would a coach support players going rogue?

Would MI6 support bond if he went rogue?

“That’s not who we are, not what we’re about," Allen said. A clear message to the public that should have been kept internal.

And on the second point, your always going to have "rogue" workers, it's his job to support everyone, good or bad, its what good leaders do.