Mikey Loomis: Its "Stupid" to think Dennis Allen has lost the Saints Locker Room (1 Viewer)

[nakadish]

Players can’t stay off social media now all of a sudden it’s quiet? Not one “he’s our coach” “we’re in this together” “we’ll” “us” “we”. All year long you’ve heard players say talk about players, the guys in the locker room, teammates. Not once have you heard anything about the coaching staff included. In fact, they’ve almost gone out of their way to say it’s the players, purposely leaving out coaches and front office. Strange huh?

Considering the season just ended? No.

If someone askes me if I love my wife, I'm just going to look at them like they're and idiot and walk away. Because I don't need to defend that. DA was supposed to hate Winston, but yet, Winston resigns with the Saints. Why if he and DA hated each other like is being portrayed. There's a lot of assumptions going on particularly with the media just for clicks and the fans are eating it up.

But we'll know soon enough if we start seeing players leaving. But I'm guessing they won't. Then there will have to be some other excuse.

 

[No2DC]

Yeah.

But I don't think that's true. Winston did resign with the Saints, and not because he didn't have any other options. He didn't spend a lot of time looking for other options. And I think he's back with the Saints in 2024.

Possible, but I'm sure his agent will look for a better situation for next year. Although his chances of being a starter are probably over, some teams may want a transition guy until their rook is ready.

 

[nakadish]

Possible, but I'm sure his agent will look for a better situation for next year. Although his chances of being a starter are probably over, some teams may want a transition guy until their rook is ready.

Coaching staff aside, the Saints have one of the most player friendly locker rooms in the NFL. I believe Duncan pointed out that all of the FAs that signed a one-year contract want to come back with the Saints. And as we've seen, all the players genuinely care for each other. And that means a lot. I would argue against most, that Jameis calling the TD in the Atlanta game shows how good the locker room is, not how bad it is - from a player standpoint.

I think that's why he stays unless the Saints decide to move on from his contract. But I don't see that. I think he stays with the Saints for a long time.

 

[Lionsaint]

Unless I’m completely mistaken the top part of that tweet isn’t a quote from Mickey. It’s just that guy rephrasing what he thinks Mickey said. Mickey never said, “I had to meet with the team to get them to fall in line”. He only said he had a players only meeting which he doesn’t do often and the message was about the tone going forward and it was well received.

Listening to his answer about DA losing the team… the question was seemed to be about the victory touchdown also. And he said that was stupid. That people were reading way too much into it. That it was done in support of a teammate not as an act of defiance towards DA. That not one player would say that and it was being made a bigger deal than it is.

Edit: look up Ross Jackson’s podcast on YouTube he posted today. Locked on Saints. He talks about the locker room and free agents resigning or coming to New Orleans.

 

[madsaint1967]

Why is no one openly condemning him from the locker room. It goes both ways. If you point out the cam interview the video was edited and didn’t say player leadership, just leadership.

Come back in August after the mass exodus and tell us what we already know.

 

[ANKOMA33]

I really want to watch internal Saints football because the external Saints blow.

Hard Knocks perhaps?

 

[Elvis]

Hard Knocks perhaps?

At this point, why not?

 

[greg8710]

LOL did we make the playoffs in the internal timeline?

That’s like someone asking if you died from Covid

 

[English]

Does a coach apologize to the other team if its no big deal ?

 

[Rouxble]

Genuinely asking because I haven’t seen: have any players come out on social media publicly supporting DA?

Honestly, how often does that happen for any coach? Upwards of half of them are getting trashed by some news outlet by the time they miss the playoffs, do players just randomly start tweeting out support?

The only things I know are that Winston told the media he apologized to DA, Hurst said that the play wasn’t a mutiny at all, and Cam said no ill will about the play.

Whether DA is the best coach for the job is one question, but I think the idea that he has completely lost the locker room of a team that just blew out their division rival in the season finale is mostly fan fiction. The team has fought every week, they didn’t give up and get blown out like Staley’s Chargers.

 

[Saint Spud]

Honestly, how often does that happen for any coach? Upwards of half of them are getting trashed by some news outlet by the time they miss the playoffs, do players just randomly start tweeting out support?

The only things I know are that Winston told the media he apologized to DA, Hurst said that the play wasn’t a mutiny at all, and Cam said no ill will about the play.

Whether DA is the best coach for the job is one question, but I think the idea that he has completely lost the locker room of a team that just blew out their division rival in the season finale is mostly fan fiction. The team has fought every week, they didn’t give up and get blown out like Staley’s Chargers.

I’d have to look it up. But rarely has a coach been this disliked by the fan base and had this much reported turmoil in the locker room and had the coach survive it. So it’s kinda hard to compare it to anything else.

 

[DSnfla]

Because those clips don’t make for good Twitter videos to feed the narrative. For example, Cam’s alleged lukewarm comments about his coach cut off the rest of his statement:


Read in full, he is putting it more on the players than the coaches.

Again with the facts, Don't you know they don't want no stinking facts

 

[Rouxble]

I’d have to look it up. But rarely has a coach been this disliked by the fan base and had this much reported turmoil in the locker room and had the coach survive it. So it’s kinda hard to compare it to anything else.

I thought Underhill said the rift was becoming apparent when we were losing, but that it was less of an issue as we closed out the season with some wins. He said he wrote an article that he was prepared to publish, but never did because the locker room event he anticipated never happened.

Did the Saints really look like a team that was going through the motions the last few weeks?

 

[Saint Spud]

I thought Underhill said the rift was becoming apparent when we were losing, but that it was less of an issue as we closed out the season with some wins. He said he wrote an article that he was prepared to publish, but never did because the locker room event he anticipated never happened.

Did the Saints really look like a team that was going through the motions the last few weeks?

Yeah but my impression has been that it’s been about the players playing for each other and for pride. Not for the coach.

Anyway, I’ll try to think of similar situations. But you’ve got fire Dennis Allen billboards up. You’ve got fire DA posters. You’ve got booing. You’ve got DA no longer being introduced to the crowd so he doesn’t get booed. If players really wanted to support him, they’ve got the platform to do so. Plenty have supported Jameis publicly for his decision to defy DA.

 

[nakadish]

Does a coach apologize to the other team if its no big deal ?

When he represents a billion-dollar organization that he knows won't like that and might be hurt by that? Absolutely. Image does matter in the NFL because image equates to money. But internally, yeah, it's no big deal. Not even with the boss. He just said so.