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Its not a very top heavy draft at all, but we might be able to find someone who wants to jump the Cowboys for Jeanty if things shake out like they’re set up to.I'm not taking him at 10. I really like trading back to the early 20s and picking up a few more Day 2 picks unless one of the top 8 or so fall.
I'd love to get Harris in the 2nd , I'd love Jeanty but we need DL help way too much to go offense with 1 and 2. Now McMillian in the 1st and DL in the 2nd or Graham in the 1st and Harris in the 2nd and we're goldenMy second try - no trades. I’d be pretty happy with this draft.
Its not a very top heavy draft at all, but we might be able to find someone who wants to jump the Cowboys for Jeanty if things shake out like they’re set up to.
I think a lot of good teams are looking at the Ravens and Eagles with their RBs making them SB contenders. Jeanty in Washington or Buffalo would be special
Xavier Watts at 75 would be an amazing get. I am surprised he's lasting into the 3rd on a lot of these mocks. I know safeties tend to fall relative to their perceived talent, but I think he'll wind up being an above average coverage safety in the league with a nose for turnovers - and what better mentor to have than the Honey Badger?My second try - no trades. I’d be pretty happy with this draft.
I think one of the things people on this forum need to keep in mind is it usually takes 2-4 years for even high round DT prospects to develop into plus starters. These guys take time and thinking a draft pick is going to come in and solve problems on the interior year 1 is very unrealistic. Quinnen Williams was getting labeled as a bust after his rookie season. Eagles fans were ragging on Jordan Davis year 1. Onyemata was bad as a rookie. Akiem Hicks was bad as a rookie. Dexter Lawrence was average for the first few years. People have been ragging on Bresee all season and he's already got double the production a lot of these guys had in their first two years. We drafted a developmental NT last year. You mentioned Ridgeway. There are some young guys on the roster that have the talent, they just need the time and opportunity to master the position. They're playing against guys of equal size that have been mastering their craft for 5-10 years at the NFL level and are often times trying to take on 2 of them at once....The DL can see a huge change just by adding 1-2 players on the interior line and a shift in focus/scheme. We need that NT/big nasty block eating run stuffer to put next to Bresee. Those guys are around and they usually don't have the stats, I've seen someone mention Yahya Black at Iowa who doesn't even show up in the mock draft simulators yet, he cuold be that guy. We might have someone on the roster who could fill that role maybe not as the starter, but would be the backup. ... If I was the FO, I would develop him and add a NT in the draft.
Agree with all of that but I think the offensive scheme will change when the new coach takes over.I agree. Why not us? AK/Jeanty with KM in an offense that is run focused could send us right back to the top of the NFC South or better fairly quick. Yes, we need DL help badly and need to address the WR position, however, we don't need 5-6 WRs as years past with this a run focused offense. We need WRs who get dirty and also make plays (49ers and Lions WRs), strong TE room and a line who brings the physicality. That offense can be completed with this draft and offseason. The DL can see a huge change just by adding 1-2 players on the interior line and a shift in focus/scheme. We need that NT/big nasty block eating run stuffer to put next to Bresee. Those guys are around and they usually don't have the stats, I've seen someone mention Yahya Black at Iowa who doesn't even show up in the mock draft simulators yet, he cuold be that guy. We might have someone on the roster who could fill that role maybe not as the starter, but would be the backup. Ridgeway already has the size, but a knock on him coming into the league was lower body strength as his upper body strength, arm length and tenacity was praised. He came into the league at 6'5" 321lbs, if he were to focus on his lower body, and just getting older/filling out, he could be in the 330-340 range fairly easy. That with coaching/development could be an answer with someone on the roster. Ridgeway has over 33" arms and a reach greater than 6'9". If I was the FO, I would develop him and add a NT in the draft. Looking to who can be developed on the roster will help us go with a playmaker like Jeanty in the 1st. I'm also looking at JJ to move back to WR, play the Big X/Juaun Jennings role. We have Means who was showing flashes as another bigger WR, Kevin Austin Jr. who is bigger as well. The draft is so deep at TE, we could double dip there and end up with a young strong TE room. I know a lot of fans are very negative right now, but with a few right moves, this team can get fixed while cleaning up the cap which will be needed when we have to keep our young talent in the future.
I think we need to see just what we have in Miller in the remaining 4 games before drafting a RB. With Olave's future uncertain WR is a bigger need than RB that's why if McMillian is there when we pick I think we run to the podium. I doubt that Graham will be there but we can dream. I go for the best DL available when we pick and hope that Tre Harris is there in the 2ndI agree. Why not us? AK/Jeanty with KM in an offense that is run focused could send us right back to the top of the NFC South or better fairly quick. Yes, we need DL help badly and need to address the WR position, however, we don't need 5-6 WRs as years past with this a run focused offense. We need WRs who get dirty and also make plays (49ers and Lions WRs), strong TE room and a line who brings the physicality. That offense can be completed with this draft and offseason. The DL can see a huge change just by adding 1-2 players on the interior line and a shift in focus/scheme. We need that NT/big nasty block eating run stuffer to put next to Bresee. Those guys are around and they usually don't have the stats, I've seen someone mention Yahya Black at Iowa who doesn't even show up in the mock draft simulators yet, he cuold be that guy. We might have someone on the roster who could fill that role maybe not as the starter, but would be the backup. Ridgeway already has the size, but a knock on him coming into the league was lower body strength as his upper body strength, arm length and tenacity was praised. He came into the league at 6'5" 321lbs, if he were to focus on his lower body, and just getting older/filling out, he could be in the 330-340 range fairly easy. That with coaching/development could be an answer with someone on the roster. Ridgeway has over 33" arms and a reach greater than 6'9". If I was the FO, I would develop him and add a NT in the draft. Looking to who can be developed on the roster will help us go with a playmaker like Jeanty in the 1st. I'm also looking at JJ to move back to WR, play the Big X/Juaun Jennings role. We have Means who was showing flashes as another bigger WR, Kevin Austin Jr. who is bigger as well. The draft is so deep at TE, we could double dip there and end up with a young strong TE room. I know a lot of fans are very negative right now, but with a few right moves, this team can get fixed while cleaning up the cap which will be needed when we have to keep our young talent in the future.
I think Graham is different I think he makes a big impact in yr 1 just like Jalen CarterI think one of the things people on this forum need to keep in mind is it usually takes 2-4 years for even high round DT prospects to develop into plus starters. These guys take time and thinking a draft pick is going to come in and solve problems on the interior year 1 is very unrealistic. Quinnen Williams was getting labeled as a bust after his rookie season. Eagles fans were ragging on Jordan Davis year 1. Onyemata was bad as a rookie. Akiem Hicks was bad as a rookie. Dexter Lawrence was average for the first few years. People have been ragging on Bresee all season and he's already got double the production a lot of these guys had in their first two years. We drafted a developmental NT last year. You mentioned Ridgeway. There are some young guys on the roster that have the talent, they just need the time and opportunity to master the position. They're playing against guys of equal size that have been mastering their craft for 5-10 years at the NFL level and are often times trying to take on 2 of them at once.
I think we need to see just what we have in Miller in the remaining 4 games before drafting a RB. With Olave's future uncertain WR is a bigger need than RB that's why if McMillian is there when we pick I think we run to the podium. I doubt that Graham will be there but we can dream. I go for the best DL available when we pick and hope that Tre Harris is there in the 2nd
He might, but that is why I mentioned Quinnen Williams. Carter has had some down stretches, but wound up posting PFFs highest pass rushing grade ever by a rookie DT in PFF history. Carter-esque impact should probably be on the high end of hopes, rather than the expected standard (not to say you're expecting that).I think Graham is different I think he makes a big impact in yr 1 just like Jalen Carter
I think we need to see just what we have in Miller in the remaining 4 games before drafting a RB. With Olave's future uncertain WR is a bigger need than RB that's why if McMillian is there when we pick I think we run to the podium. I doubt that Graham will be there but we can dream. I go for the best DL available when we pick and hope that Tre Harris is there in the 2nd
Yeah at some point time will catch up with AK but I don't see that happening for at least another 2 yrs , and at that time we can move on from him. But with te way AK takes care of himself and does not take unnecessary hits it could be longer. He's on pace to have more yds from scrimmage this yr than ever before, unlike the 2 RBs you mentioned @ 30yrs old. AK is under contract for 2 more yrs so drafting Jeanty without knowing what we have in Miller is premature because if Miller pans out we would have an overcrowded backfield especially if Taysom comes back for however long he will play.I agree about Miller and I love how he runs the ball, but Williams is a non-factor as is every RB below him on the depth chart. That leaves AK and Miller with AK going into his age 30 season. At some point father time will catch up to him. AK's closest comps as a dual threat RB in the 5'10" 210-220lb range are LT and Faulk. Both LT and Faulk had good age 30 and 31 seasons, but dropped off significantly at 32 and didn't play again after that. AK is signed through his age 31 season, an extension agreed on between both he and the team which indicates all parties think he has 2 more seasons after this season. They'll reassess in 2026 to see if an age 32 season is possible, but historically with RBs like AK it hasn't been.
Jeanty hasn't been used a lot in the passing game this season, but he had 43 receptions last year so he is dual threat as well, but concetrating on carries this season. Jeanty can be that everydown back after AK is done.
I've started doing mocks with Jeanty as he's available sometimes whereas Tet and Graham are not. I like all three options and a case can be made for all of them. What I've learned from running these different mock simulations and different platforms is that we can address many of the team needs in this draft fairly easily due to the depth at RB, TE, OG, DT, DE and there are a few Big X WRs.
I've mentioned in this thread and others, that we have to look at the roster and see who can be developed into roles as that how the best teams build teams. I like JJ as a Big X WR and not as much as a TE going forward. JJ as a Big X compares favorably to the other Big X WRs in the draft and he's already been in the NFL for 5 seasons, but next year is his age 29 season so even with a conversion back to WR, he's still aging out so a replacement/understudy would be needed if he does make the switch back. Means, Tet, Harris, Jayden Higgins are all options there with Means already on the roster and developing, although he's not as big as those other guys so he's more of an X and not a Big X.
I also like the potential of Ridgeway who is only 25 and in his 3rd season in the NFL. I mentioned above what he needs to do, but overall those are options on the roster that can fill a couple of the needs, but either way, I would still draft a Big X WR and a monster NT/DT to level up/add depth and competition to those positions.
I have no doubt that Olave will come back and will do everything he can to build himself up to try and withstand the hits. Will that work? Who knows. That's why a WR in the 1s or 2nd rnd makes the most sense. If Jeanty is there when we pick and McMillian or Graham are not I hope we trade back with a team that's Jeanty happy and pick up and extra pick or 2 and get our DL or our WRI also agree about Olave. His future is uncertain even if he plans on getting bigger/stronger and working on his nexk strength. Thay won't subtract from his 5 concussions and 4 as a Pro.