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Ouch. I'd almost forgotten about Bill. Thanks for that.
N/S JJ Watt released (1 Viewer)
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I say Raven.
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He’s going to Green Bay. BDM
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High character guy. Wish he could've played here. Can't have enough good people on your team and he's just a good person.
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He's definitely going to want to sign with a contender and probably one in a mild climate (older injured guys do better in warmer climates). I hate to say it, but I can see him signing with the Bucs as a situational pass-rusher or something on a cheap deal in an effort to chase a ring.
That's what's frustrating about the Bucs success...is if you thought the flock of free agents signing with them for a ring was bad last season - wait until the new crop comes in for them. It's the Brady effect and as long as he is there, they aren't going to have to do much to sell free agents on signing with them. Sadly...
That's what's frustrating about the Bucs success...is if you thought the flock of free agents signing with them for a ring was bad last season - wait until the new crop comes in for them. It's the Brady effect and as long as he is there, they aren't going to have to do much to sell free agents on signing with them. Sadly...
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Is it happening?
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Texans GM: So we release the best player on our defense, do you still want to stay?
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I highly doubt he gets picked up by another team at that $17 mil salary. He more than likely will sign a contract for much less with a contender. Hello Sean we have JJ on the phone on line 2 if your interested.
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Did he ask for it? I haven't seen that yet but I am at work so it's hard to follow everything
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I'd do more than kick the tires. I'd move pieces just to get him here, even if it's just as a rotational player.
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Deshaun Watson tweeted to Watt:
“Any team in the league will be better the day you put on their jersey!”
lmao.
Houston is like a dumpster fire, but with a long line of elephants moseying by and pausing to slowly raise their legs and whizz on it.
“Any team in the league will be better the day you put on their jersey!”
lmao.
Houston is like a dumpster fire, but with a long line of elephants moseying by and pausing to slowly raise their legs and whizz on it.
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Camp body?
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Arians="HouseCall, post: 8364966, member: 633"]
He's definitely going to want to sign with a contender and probably one in a mild climate (older injured guys do better in warmer climates). I hate to say it, but I can see him signing with the Bucs as a situational pass-rusher or something on a cheap deal in an effort to chase a ring.
That's what's frustrating about the Bucs success...is if you thought the flock of free agents signing with them for a ring was bad last season - wait until the new crop comes in for them. It's the Brady effect and as long as he is there, they aren't going to have to do much to sell free agents on signing with them. Sadly...
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Yeah, but Brady's decision to sign with Tampa was a logical, well-calculated idea. Unfortunately, this next part kind of criticizes Jameis, but the Bucs FO, owner, and new HC had given up on him because his play was too inconsistent after 4 years of being their starting QB. At the end of the day or season, his numbers might look decent but those almost equal TD-INT ratio was one factor in why Tampa only had 1 winning season under him. Arians, when he arrived there, wasnt too overtly subtle in implying Jameis wasn't his long-time future starter and it wasn't like Bucs didnt have great talent on both sides, two Pro-Bowl WR's, a pretty good up-and-coming TE even before Gronk arrived in O.J. Howard, and a defense that was above-average, but with a better, more innovative, creative minded HC, God forbid they could be great. Brady also knew Arians wasn't this tight-fisted, authoritarian butt crevasse of a HC that began to believe he was mostly responsible for their near-two decade run of dominance. A!so, Belichek knows he's butt crevasse,.takes pride in it and using it to bully his players around and its a miracle, some tense, edgy player or players didnt throw a punch at him or run at him in a crowded post-game explicit "this really means you" tirade. Then again, Belichek might be an insufferable jerk, butt crevasse and authoritian punk but he's a smart one, and he's knows or learned that pushy, rambling, snide arrogant remarks would backfire on volcanic hotheads looking for confrontations like Lawrence Taylor, Carl Banks, Willie Mcginest, Rodney Harrison who played hard, and werent beneath mixing it up with fellow teammates, coaches if their criticism became too heated, unfaily pointed and out-of-line and they were pushed too far.
Thats why Nick Saban, like Bobby Knight at Indiana NCAA hoops before him, would never succeed or fail miserably as NBA or NFL HC's. Intuitively, they know it regardless of how many times they proclaimed to the media it "would be worth the challenge".
Brady knew what kind of team he was joining as a FA and seasoned they could win those 3-4 extra games Jameis never showed consistently he could. Jameis, sadly, in that context, was holding Tampa back and unfortunately, Buccaneers did make the right decision mostly from a short-term perspective.
Arians probably also consoled himself, and told his players and assistants similarly this wasn't a 1992 Jerry Glanville Favre-GB trade scenario where they traded a fat, undisciplined, out-of-shape 3rd stringer who needed a HC who was a second fathers figure and had more time to develop him he theorized(correctly) to be a perennial Pro-Bowl Super Bowl MVP, future HOF QB.
Arians knows that Winston isn't that kind of diamond-in-the-rough rare discarded find. Payton might work on his discipline, ability to read defenses effectively, his numbers might get better, maybe he takes us the Saints to playoffs, but it's more of a Kerry Collins career resurrection project and if Winston can throw for over 40,000 yards in his career, play and make average teams look better for a while, and career lasts 15 seasons, that is a successful NFL career but more often then not, likelihood of Winston's teams making and winning a SB isn't as strong as Patrick Mahomes/Chiefs right now for the next 3-5 seasons.
He's definitely going to want to sign with a contender and probably one in a mild climate (older injured guys do better in warmer climates). I hate to say it, but I can see him signing with the Bucs as a situational pass-rusher or something on a cheap deal in an effort to chase a ring.
That's what's frustrating about the Bucs success...is if you thought the flock of free agents signing with them for a ring was bad last season - wait until the new crop comes in for them. It's the Brady effect and as long as he is there, they aren't going to have to do much to sell free agents on signing with them. Sadly...
[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but Brady's decision to sign with Tampa was a logical, well-calculated idea. Unfortunately, this next part kind of criticizes Jameis, but the Bucs FO, owner, and new HC had given up on him because his play was too inconsistent after 4 years of being their starting QB. At the end of the day or season, his numbers might look decent but those almost equal TD-INT ratio was one factor in why Tampa only had 1 winning season under him. Arians, when he arrived there, wasnt too overtly subtle in implying Jameis wasn't his long-time future starter and it wasn't like Bucs didnt have great talent on both sides, two Pro-Bowl WR's, a pretty good up-and-coming TE even before Gronk arrived in O.J. Howard, and a defense that was above-average, but with a better, more innovative, creative minded HC, God forbid they could be great. Brady also knew Arians wasn't this tight-fisted, authoritarian butt crevasse of a HC that began to believe he was mostly responsible for their near-two decade run of dominance. A!so, Belichek knows he's butt crevasse,.takes pride in it and using it to bully his players around and its a miracle, some tense, edgy player or players didnt throw a punch at him or run at him in a crowded post-game explicit "this really means you" tirade. Then again, Belichek might be an insufferable jerk, butt crevasse and authoritian punk but he's a smart one, and he's knows or learned that pushy, rambling, snide arrogant remarks would backfire on volcanic hotheads looking for confrontations like Lawrence Taylor, Carl Banks, Willie Mcginest, Rodney Harrison who played hard, and werent beneath mixing it up with fellow teammates, coaches if their criticism became too heated, unfaily pointed and out-of-line and they were pushed too far.
Thats why Nick Saban, like Bobby Knight at Indiana NCAA hoops before him, would never succeed or fail miserably as NBA or NFL HC's. Intuitively, they know it regardless of how many times they proclaimed to the media it "would be worth the challenge".
Brady knew what kind of team he was joining as a FA and seasoned they could win those 3-4 extra games Jameis never showed consistently he could. Jameis, sadly, in that context, was holding Tampa back and unfortunately, Buccaneers did make the right decision mostly from a short-term perspective.
Arians probably also consoled himself, and told his players and assistants similarly this wasn't a 1992 Jerry Glanville Favre-GB trade scenario where they traded a fat, undisciplined, out-of-shape 3rd stringer who needed a HC who was a second fathers figure and had more time to develop him he theorized(correctly) to be a perennial Pro-Bowl Super Bowl MVP, future HOF QB.
Arians knows that Winston isn't that kind of diamond-in-the-rough rare discarded find. Payton might work on his discipline, ability to read defenses effectively, his numbers might get better, maybe he takes us the Saints to playoffs, but it's more of a Kerry Collins career resurrection project and if Winston can throw for over 40,000 yards in his career, play and make average teams look better for a while, and career lasts 15 seasons, that is a successful NFL career but more often then not, likelihood of Winston's teams making and winning a SB isn't as strong as Patrick Mahomes/Chiefs right now for the next 3-5 seasons.
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Some of the comments about JJ Watt are disturbing on this thread.
I would take this guy in a heartbeat! Over anything we have on the roster right now.
I would take this guy in a heartbeat! Over anything we have on the roster right now.
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I'd rather try to keep Trey and let Davenport eventually go.
I always thought if Hendrickson got more playing time he do well. He didn't let me down.
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