New Star Wars series The Acolyte (1 Viewer)

[2009ring]

What do you mean, some of the best live action fight scenes in SW ever? We've been seen live action fight scenes since 1977. Even TFM and AotC had better fights. And none of the Acolyte's fights have the gravitas (not even close) of Vader v Luke, Maul v Kenobi, Yoda v Dooku, Kenobi v Grevious, Vader v Kenobi I and II, Anakin v Kenobi... and that's just lightsabers. The Acolyte's fights have nothing on the Mandalorian's fights. I didn't see anything special about the fights, other than the last twin v. twin/Sol v Qimir fights looking like Ang Lee directed the episode. What's so special about The Acolyte's fights?

SW isn't The Expendables either. There are expectations from a SW production, and the bar was raised with Mandalorian and Andor.

And no, the acting was not "MUCH better" in the back end.

If you want to discuss the "cool ****"you think you saw, by all means, discuss it. But don't tell other people what they should be discussing because you don't want to hear how bad the show was.

SW light saber fights have stunk since Nic Gillard's been gone.

 

[Brock Meaux]

My reaction to the split over The Acolyte:

 

[GeauxWhoDats]

S2 will need a trailer like this. Then it will be the greatest Disney Cinema ever.

 

[GeauxWhoDats]

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[Scorpius the Allfather]

 

[GeauxWhoDats]

That is a crazy documentary.

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

Not a terrible episode, but marred by more bad writing

Yeah, that "song" during the credits was decidedly cringy bad. Couldn't have been more stereotyped formula modern pop if they'd tried.

Overall, the episode was pretty good. The fight with the wookie was pretty great, and explaining their concern over the twins being sacrificed by the witches causing their actions made sense, but there were several moments of bad writing involving manipulating characters to do things out of character and/or without any sensible reason:

Tobin jumps on a speeder to run back to the temple when they realize there must a vergence there. Exactly why did he do this? He didn't take any equipment to gather any evidence of such, or really seem to have any idea how to identify a vergence. "Well, he's young and impulsive" is a lame writer's answer. There was simply no reason for him to do that without having some sort of plan on how to identify the vergence and gather proof of its existence.

Sol whips out his lightsaber and stabs the mother when she goes all smoke. Again, why? He could have simply held her in place with the force. That was something that Tobin should have done as the "young and impulsive" guy. Made no sense for Sol to do it.

Just reiterating what SaintinBucland pointed out: Sol's illogical, ridiculous choice to hold up two falling pieces of bridge rather than simply pull the twins out of the danger to him.
But further, why is he having trouble holding up two falling pieces of bridge? Again, the writers show their ignorance of Star Wars lore. In "The Empire Strikes Back" Yoda impresses upon Luke that the idea of the X-wing being too heavy to lift is merely something in his mind; that as far as the force is concerned, nothing weighs any more than anything else. Sol, a Jedi Knight, would have learned that as a small child and not had any problem holding up the bridges. Another example of a character acting out of character because the writers are forcing something to happen that wouldn't happen if the characters acted in character.

Indara decides they can't tell the council what happened because it "would kill Osha's dream to be a Jedi." Why would it do that, exactly? It seems much more likely the council would deny her being trained on the story that her sister burned down their home and killed their family and friends rather than the truth that we Jedi screwed up and everyone died except her. The "too much anger and resentment" angle would come into play with the story about her sister killing everyone. Stupid. And with Indara supposedly the wise one, it makes even less sense that she proposed the cover up. Character acts out of character, it's like a theme in this show...

How does stabbing the smoke kill her? She's in smoke form! Come on man.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

LOL, Producer Guy's reaction to the witches chant matched mine!

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

How does stabbing the smoke kill her? She's in smoke form! Come on man.

Thread smoke - are you an authority on the physics of Thread smoke?

 

[tenordas]

Pretty much nailed it: bad writing all around. Those videos are usually funny, but I didn't even laugh at this one, just kept saying, "that's about right" over and over because the jokes of calling out problems weren't jokes this time, just correct observations.

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

Thread smoke - are you an authority on the physics of Thread smoke?

Are you?

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Are you?

Nope
Which is why I try to not weigh in on the properties/physics of the Force except to say that, from what we’ve been told/shown before, Sabine should NOT have been able to force push Ezra that far

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

Nope
Which is why I try to not weigh in on the properties/physics of the Force except to say that, from what we’ve been told/shown before, Sabine should NOT have been able to force push Ezra that far

Except we're not talking about the force, we're talking about a lightsaber killing a witch while she was in smoke form. It shouldn't have worked.

 

[DaveXA]

Except we're not talking about the force, we're talking about a lightsaber killing a witch while she was in smoke form. It shouldn't have worked.

Maybe there’s some properties in the saber that can impact the smoke form, I.e. plasma depending on how they’re made.

 

[Sailorsaint]

What it looked like to me was that the saber interrupted the shift or her concentration and she reformed back to her physical form around it.