(Old thread) Saints Offensive coach, Dan Roushar, part ways. (4 Viewers)

[meily]

TE coach. Helped developed Juwan Johnson.

I'm pretty sure Juwan was already the athlete he was before coming to the Saints, he just added more bulk for the position, not exactly an endorsement for Roushar no more than Olave's 1,000yrd season is an endorsement for Carmichael, Olave is good despite his offensive coaches.

 

[meily]

Roushar was the Run Game Coordinator. Partly responsible for Kamara underperforming.

Not his best year, but pretty on par with his averages outside of Touchdowns (rushing and recieving)

 

[livefromDC]

Perfect meme, CK!

 

[saintsmarchin]

Yall need to be patient

We need a few years of fail do ticket prices go back down

 

[Taker597]

Why are we behind the ball against playoff teams that literally been two days since their season ended.

 

[BreesusSaves]

Why are we behind the ball against playoff teams that literally been two days since their season ended.

Because Loomis needed to go on a spirit quest to decide who the sacrificial lamb would be to protect Allen and Carmichael.

 

[ATLien]

Appears they're doubling down on making that Paytonless Payton offense work.

 

[ShortFuzed9]

Is this supposed to pacify the masses?

We want more!

Exactly Who the Fish is that Guy Get Pete Outta Here

 

[Saint Greg]

 

[SaintVaccaro]

Does this mean we are keeping Carmichael?

Allen needed to go. We will have to wait another 5-6 games on that one.

But if Allen was staying, Carmichael had to go. You HAD to address some part of the problem. At least give off the illusion that youre trying. Hell bring in a raw offensive mind, let him OC and see if he is potential HC material in the process.

But keeping Allen AND Carmichael? Are you serious? Next thing theyll say is Andy Dalton is returning as the starter.

We don't want to become the next coaching carousel of the NFL. Those teams are historically bad. Let's try and be more like the Steelers.

 

[EvilMike]

This should have said:

Saints offer up sacrificial lamb

 

[liveoakh]

Maybe he knows what's coming down, I bet he jumped ship first to get a head start on finding his next job

You are right. They did him a solid by letting him go early. They are going to let some of Sean's guys go. Soon, they will start unloading players the same way.

 

[44slayer]

We don't want to become the next coaching carousel of the NFL. Those teams are historically bad. Let's try and be more like the Steelers.

These posts, are truly, truly aggravating to read. Mostly because they make absolutely no sense. Youd think people would take the time to think about what they are saying. But they dont.

We are going to do this, again, with the Steelers.....who havent had a losing season in Tomlins 16 years as a head coach. Really think about that. NEVER had a losing season in 16 years.

Youre using that model, in relation to Dennis Allen, who hasnt had a winning season in his 4 years as a head coach. Using a 'model' with a guy and his .636 career win %, to justify keeping a guy with a career .283 win %.

Its just, mind numbing how people keep buying the bs about stability when you have a HC who has lost 38 of his 53 games as a head coach.

Winning seasons:

Tomlin 16
Allen 0

10+ loss seasons

Tomlin 0
Allen- ALL

Playoff wins

Tomlin - 17
Allen - 0

People really need to stop it with the comparisons to the Steelers. You cant be the Steelers with a HC who cant win.

When Payton was the coach...the 6 longest tenured HCs in the NFL:

Belichick - .662
Tomlin - .636
Reid - .641
Payton - .631
Harbaugh - .607
Carroll - .589

Do you see what stability looks like? Does it look anything like, or anywhere near .283?

 

[BreesusSaves]

These posts, are truly, truly aggravating to read. Mostly because they make absolutely no sense. Youd think people would take the time to think about what they are saying. But they dont.

We are going to do this, again, with the Steelers.....who havent had a losing season in Tomlins 16 years as a head coach. Really think about that. NEVER had a losing season in 16 years.

Youre using that model, in relation to Dennis Allen, who hasnt had a winning season in his 4 years as a head coach. Using a 'model' with a guy and his .636 career win %, to justify keeping a guy with a career .283 win %.

Its just, mind numbing how people keep buying the bs about stability when you have a HC who has lost 38 of his 53 games as a head coach.

Winning seasons:

Tomlin 16
Allen 0

10+ loss seasons

Tomlin 0
Allen- ALL

Playoff wins

Tomlin - 17
Allen - 0

People really need to stop it with the comparisons to the Steelers. You cant be the Steelers with a HC who cant win.

When Payton was the coach...the 6 longest tenured HCs in the NFL:

Belichick - .662
Tomlin - .636
Reid - .641
Payton - .631
Harbaugh - .607
Carroll - .589

Do you see what stability looks like? Does it look anything like, or anywhere near .283?

Tomlin also took his team to two Super Bowls, winning one of them.

 

[44slayer]

Tomlin also took his team to two Super Bowls, winning one of them.

Right. No actual thought is put into the "lets be the Steelers" posts. The key to the Steelers model is they found successive HCs who knew how to win. Stability isnt just a plug and play idea. It has to come along with a competent NFL level HC who knows how to win games. Who doesnt figure out ways to lose them.