Paul Reubens has died (4 Viewers)

[bigdaddysaints]

Are we just moving past his child pornography conviction? I’m not shedding any tears

was charged with misdemeanor possession of obscene material improperly depicting a child under the age of 18 in sexual conduct.[77] The district attorney looked at Reubens's collection and computer and found no grounds for bringing any felony charges against him, while the city attorney, Rocky Delgadillo, formally charged Reubens on the last day allowed by statute.[78] Reubens was represented by Hollywood criminal defense lawyer Blair Berk.[79]

In December he pleaded not guilty through Berk, who also complained that the city attorney failed to turn over evidence to the defense, to which City Attorney Richard Katz countered that prosecutors were not required to do so until after arraignment. Later, evidence was secured by the defense. Neither side disclosed its contents.[80]

One thing I want to make very, very clear, I don't want anyone for one second to think that I am titillated by images of children. It's not me. You can say lots of things about me. And you might. The public may think I'm weird. They may think I'm crazy or anything that anyone wants to think about me. That's all fine. As long as one of the things you're not thinking about me is that I'm a pedophile. Because that's not true.

In March 2004, child pornography charges were dropped in exchange for Reubens's guilty plea to a lesser misdemeanor obscenity charge. For the next three years, he was required to register his address with the sheriff's office, and he could not be in the company of minors without the permission of their parent or legal guardian.[29]

Reubens later stated that he was a collector of erotica, including films, muscle magazines, and a sizable collection of mostly homosexual vintage erotica,[1] such as photographic studies of teen nudes.[29] Reubens said that what the city attorney's office viewed as pornography he considered to be innocent art, and that what they described as people underage engaged in masturbation or oral copulation was, in fact, a judgmental point of view. Reubens described the nude images as people "one hundred percent not" performing sexual acts.[29]

Being an avid collector, Reubens often purchased bulk lots, and one of his vintage magazine dealers declared that "there's no way" he could have known the content of each page in the publications he bought, and he recalled Reubens asking for "physique magazines, vintage 1960s material, but not things featuring kids".[1]

 

[Goatman Saint]

Are we just moving past his child pornography conviction? I’m not shedding any tears

Arrested, not convicted of. There was never enough material evidence to even take to trial. He pleaded to a misdemeanor obscenity charge which no DA would’ve done if he had any sort of hard tangible proof, as most of what that centered around was old historical pornography which may or may not have been teenaged. Lacking any sort of proof, and Ruebans not wanting to fight it, he plead out to what he did, and took his 3 year listing on the sexual offenders list, to which he was put on the lowest level.

So while I’m not saying he wasn’t somewhat of a creep (he was) to flat out say that is incorrect and misleading

 

[Brennan77]

Are we just moving past his child pornography conviction? I’m not shedding any tears

I didn't know about that. I knew about the theater thing.

 

[Dago]

He is in a better place now....a place where all popcorn buckets come with holes already in the bottom

 

[zatsnzapps]

I knew about the theater thing.

Reminds me of this joke...

Name two men shot in the back of the head in a theater.

Answer

Abraham Lincoln and the guy in front of Pee-wee Herman.

 

[Madmarsha]

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

He is in a better place now....a place where all popcorn buckets come with holes already in the bottom

MickeyRourkelandia?

 

[Saintman2884]

Arrested, not convicted of. There was never enough material evidence to even take to trial. He pleaded to a misdemeanor obscenity charge which no DA would’ve done if he had any sort of hard tangible proof, as most of what that centered around was old historical pornography which may or may not have been teenaged. Lacking any sort of proof, and Ruebans not wanting to fight it, he plead out to what he did, and took his 3 year listing on the sexual offenders list, to which he was put on the lowest level.

So while I’m not saying he wasn’t somewhat of a creep (he was) to flat out say that is incorrect and misleading

This doesn't exactly wipe the slate clean on exposing himself in a Florida theater. That very public, embarassing arrest hurt his Pee Wee Play house show on Saturday mornings on CBS and his reputation for quite a while. He did, to his credit, successfully resurrect his acting career in the original 1993 Buffy: The Vampire Slayer movie so there was some sense of moving on.

His arrest for publicly exposing himself and the public perception of him possibly being a paedophile or liking to view child pornography did significantly hurt his career as a popular children's TV series host on Saturday mornings on CBS from mid-80's-early 90's. Him being viewed as a bit of a creep back then hurt his popularity and marketability as an actor and performer.

 

[Goatman Saint]

This doesn't exactly wipe the slate clean on exposing himself in a Florida theater. That very public, embarassing arrest hurt his Pee Wee Play house show on Saturday mornings on CBS and his reputation for quite a while. He did, to his credit, successfully resurrect his acting career in the original 1993 Buffy: The Vampire Slayer movie so there was some sense of moving on.

His arrest for publicly exposing himself and the public perception of him possibly being a paedophile or liking to view child pornography did significantly hurt his career as a popular children's TV series host on Saturday mornings on CBS from mid-80's-early 90's. Him being viewed as a bit of a creep back then hurt his popularity and marketability as an actor and performer.

I always thought he had a creep vibe, even before that. But I mean he was jerking it in a XXX movie theater. So, that falls under creep to me, not pedo, because where I grew up XXX video places were 21 and older, not even 18. So disgusting and creepy yes, pedo no. Now the massive old porn stuff he had is forgotten about and had to refresh my memory. He bought vintage porn in lots. As they said, doubtful he even knew what was in all of it. So here again, true pedo, I dunno. Certified creep? Absolutely. But, he did have a good career and those around him were extremely loyal to him and thought highly of him. There were no personal issues with his behavior, no assaults, not even sexual harassment lawsuits. So, I dunno. I never cared for him personally. I just hope having had people who have and are currently dying of cancer that he suffered minimally and that if it was his time he went peacefully

 

[tjharris]

I always thought he had a creep vibe, even before that. But I mean he was jerking it in a XXX movie theater. So, that falls under creep to me, not pedo, because where I grew up XXX video places were 21 and older, not even 18. So disgusting and creepy yes, pedo no. Now the massive old porn stuff he had is forgotten about and had to refresh my memory. He bought vintage porn in lots. As they said, doubtful he even knew what was in all of it. So here again, true pedo, I dunno. Certified creep? Absolutely. But, he did have a good career and those around him were extremely loyal to him and thought highly of him. There were no personal issues with his behavior, no assaults, not even sexual harassment lawsuits. So, I dunno. I never cared for him personally. I just hope having had people who have and are currently dying of cancer that he suffered minimally and that if it was his time he went peacefully

I mean wouldn't it be even creepier to just sit and watch a XXX with a bucket of popcorn like it's a summer blockbuster? I've never been but I'd imagine everyone in the theater is masturbating

 

[Goatman Saint]

I’ve never been. I assume Ruebans was more the norm but not, but have no desire to find out

 

[DaveXA]

I always thought he had a creep vibe, even before that. But I mean he was jerking it in a XXX movie theater. So, that falls under creep to me, not pedo, because where I grew up XXX video places were 21 and older, not even 18. So disgusting and creepy yes, pedo no. Now the massive old porn stuff he had is forgotten about and had to refresh my memory. He bought vintage porn in lots. As they said, doubtful he even knew what was in all of it. So here again, true pedo, I dunno. Certified creep? Absolutely. But, he did have a good career and those around him were extremely loyal to him and thought highly of him. There were no personal issues with his behavior, no assaults, not even sexual harassment lawsuits. So, I dunno. I never cared for him personally. I just hope having had people who have and are currently dying of cancer that he suffered minimally and that if it was his time he went peacefully

Tbh, I've long been ambivalent about Pee Wee Herman the character and the actor. That said, I never bought that he was ever a pedo. He really didn't fit the profile of one and the evidence they wanted to use to charge him was flimsy at best.

As for him pulling the pudding in a XXX theater, I've never been in one, so I assume people doing that was a regular occurrence, only most I'd imagine were discreet about it. Unless he was up and walking around with the thing exposed, he should have been left alone like everyone else. I tend to think he was targeted because he was a celebrity. I wasn't there and don't know what's accepted behavior for that particular theater though.

He was always a quirky dude. I was never a fan, but I do remember the days when his show was a big thing. Only watched a couple of episodes before deciding I didn't care for it. His appearances on WWE cracked me up tho, heh.

 

[Sailorsaint]

I never understood how a group of people/strangers could sit in a theater and watch a XXX flick like it was a Marvel movie or something. That's something you do in the privacy of your home, in a dark room. Same goes for watching a XXX flick.....

 

[zatsnzapps]

I never understood how a group of people/strangers could sit in a theater and watch a XXX flick like it was a Marvel movie or something. That's something you do in the privacy of your home, in a dark room. Same goes for watching a XXX flick.....

Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.