Paul Reubens has died

[kcirdor]

From some other Rando on the internet in regards to the Pedo BS. According to them, What the police did to him was akin to finding a Sears Magazine and trying to pin charges on him for kids in underwear in the kids section.

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

I don't think we get Steve Urkel (for better or worse) as we know him without Pee Wee.

 

[kcirdor]

I never understood how a group of people/strangers could sit in a theater and watch a XXX flick like it was a Marvel movie or something. That's something you do in the privacy of your home, in a dark room. Same goes for watching a XXX flick.....

ever heard of rest stops... and sliding the foot under the stall wall.... Understand?

Someone didn't like gay people, saw Pee Wee in there and decided to shine a light on them for doing what they had to do back in those days.

 

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[Saintman2884]

ever heard of rest stops... and sliding the foot under the stall wall.... Understand?

Someone didn't like gay people, saw Pee Wee in there and decided to shine a light on them for doing what they had to do back in those days.

How do you know the person who called the cops or alerted the authorities on Pee Wee didnt like gays or lesbians? Did they publicly say so? And also, it was a big deal when it happened because of until that point, Reubens had been hosting a popular Saturday mornings CBS TV children's show, Pee Wee's Playhouse and bad publicity like being busted or exposing himself in an adult film theater won't help his popularity with millions of American kids. Also, back in the late 80's/early 90's, if he wanted to see porn, he didnt have to necessarily go to adult film theaters, there was Blockbusters, HBO showed porn movies all the time back then and still do. If Reubens had been lets say an action movie star like Arnold or Sylvester Stallone, and been busted, there would have been some backlash to his popularity but it wouldn't have damaged his career and reputation to the extent it did because he wasnt the host of a popular Saturday morning children's TV show. Whether we like it or not, these particular type of celebrities are held to probably even higher standards than most celebrities, film or TV stars.

If it was the mid-late 60's, or even as late as mid/late 70's, it might be more understandable because HBO/Showtime didnt exist back then or were in their infancy as was movie rental franchises like Blockbuster.

Like it or not, by the early 90's Reuben was a major celebrity and whenever he or other celebrities engage in questionable behavior, the media backlash gets magnified. Thats just the way it is and it still pretty much works that way even now, 32 years later. If Paul Reubens had been a ordinary, middle-aged nobody or non-celebrity living in a major city going to those theaters, this is a non-story but who he was and taking into consideration his perceived reputation at the time, the resulting backlash was going to be swift.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

How do you know the person who called the cops or alerted the authorities on Pee Wee didnt like gays or lesbians? Did they publicly say so? And also, it was a big deal when it happened because of until that point, Reubens had been hosting a popular Saturday mornings CBS TV children's show, Pee Wee's Playhouse and bad publicity like being busted or exposing himself in an adult film theater won't help his popularity with millions of American kids. Also, back in the late 80's/early 90's, if he wanted to see porn, he didnt have to necessarily go to adult film theaters, there was Blockbusters, HBO showed porn movies all the time back then and still do. If Reubens had been lets say an action movie star like Arnold or Sylvester Stallone, and been busted, there would have been some backlash to his popularity but it wouldn't have damaged his career and reputation to the extent it did because he wasnt the host of a popular Saturday morning children's TV show. Whether we like it or not, these particular type of celebrities are held to probably even higher standards than most celebrities, film or TV stars.

If it was the mid-late 60's, or even as late as mid/late 70's, it might be more understandable because HBO/Showtime didnt exist back then or were in their infancy as was movie rental franchises like Blockbuster.

Like it or not, by the early 90's Reuben was a major celebrity and whenever he or other celebrities engage in questionable behavior, the media backlash gets magnified. Thats just the way it is and it still pretty much works that way even now, 32 years later. If Paul Reubens had been a ordinary, middle-aged nobody or non-celebrity living in a major city going to those theaters, this is a non-story but who he was and taking into consideration his perceived reputation at the time, the resulting backlash was going to be swift.

‘Just the way it is’ is close enough to a tacit endorsement to raise questions
Do you think Paul’s actions warranted the reactions?

 

[Saintman2884]

‘Just the way it is’ is close enough to a tacit endorsement to raise questions
Do you think Paul’s actions warranted the reactions?

I don't know, Guido. If he wasnt the host of a popular, Saturday morning CBS TV series that was on for about 5-6 years before his arrest and if he'd been lets say, an action movie star like Arnold, Stallone, or even Willis, he mightve suffered some blowback to his career but it wouldn't have hurt him as drastically as who he was perceived as at the time of his arrest for exposing himself at an adult film theater.

Then again, wasnt there some major Illinois GOP Congressman that was arrested back in 2004 who was married to former Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, and Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan for indecent exposure, public exposure at an adult film theater in Chicago?

The types of celebrities that host or create content for kids are held to a very high, moral/ethical standards that other celebrities aren't necessarily. I mean, I could see how a lot of American families might be a tad bit upset about hearing about a supposed child role model exposing himself and acting like a bit of a perv, so if Paul was indeed marketing himself to kids, at the time, pre-teens, and younger, I can see why their was such a huge blowback.

 

[kcirdor]

Also, back in the late 80's/early 90's, if he wanted to see porn, he didnt have to necessarily go to adult film theaters, there was Blockbusters,

Where was Tinder? Grinder? Facebook? He wasn't trying to get some porn he was trying to get some Vitamin D.


Also, Blockbuster didn't carry porn. I worked at a video store illegally at the age of 15, there was NO PORN.

I don't think any one of us care about the blow back.. The fact that he got arrested for doing what you do in a porn movie is the problem.

 

[Saintman2884]

Where was Tinder? Grinder? Facebook? He wasn't trying to get some porn he was trying to get some Vitamin D.


Also, Blockbuster didn't carry porn. I worked at a video store illegally at the age of 15, there was NO PORN.

I don't think any one of us care about the blow back.. The fact that he got arrested for doing what you do in a porn movie is the problem.

If you're the host of a popular children Saturday morning TV show, and you're presenting content to children, yeah that can be a bit of a PR problem for families who complain about a celebrity their kids like or see as a role model misbehaving, you and everyone else over ages of 21 may not care, but you're not kids and frankly, if Reubens had been some middle-aged, big city non-celebrity doing this in an adult film theater, this is a non-story. He was a major celebrity figure who hosted a Saturday morning kids show on CBS. If you're a CBS executive back then or now, how do you manage the blowback from outraged parents across the country whose kids watch his show?

If Facebook, Twitter, or Tumblr had existed back then, it probably would've taken far less time for a celebrity like Pee-Wee or anyone else to get busted for something like this. Before Internet, before social media, you'd be amazed at the sort of crazy, unbelievable sheet major celebrities got away with it and most people never heard about it.

You also neglected to mention that HBO, now Showtime and Cinemax showed porn all the time back then and still do.

 

[Saintman2884]

Where was Tinder? Grinder? Facebook? He wasn't trying to get some porn he was trying to get some Vitamin D.


Also, Blockbuster didn't carry porn. I worked at a video store illegally at the age of 15, there was NO PORN.

I don't think any one of us care about the blow back.. The fact that he got arrested for doing what you do in a porn movie is the problem.

There have been Congressman, Senators, hell even a few governors who have been kicked out of office, forced to resign, publicly shamed for committing acts similar or even worse then what Reubens got arrested for back in 1991. Gov. Mark Stanford? Gov. Elliot Spitzer of New York? Former NYC congressman Anthony Weiner? Congressman Craig? Congressman Ryan of Illinois?

Don't say there aren't any consequences or that public officials won't be held to accountability if they engage in suspicious or allegedly lewd behavior and their caught in the act.

 

[kcirdor]

You also neglected to mention that HBO, now Showtime and Cinemax showed porn all the time back then and still do.

I suggest you learn about Tinder, Grinder, Bumble, Hinge, Eharmony, Match.com, Adult Friend Finder, Christian Mingle....

 

[kcirdor]

Don't say there aren't any consequences or that public officials won't be held to accountability if they engage in suspicious or allegedly lewd behavior and their caught in the act.

what are you even talking about, willis? I don't care.



RIP PeeWee.