Ratings PFF has Bresee dead last in run defense…. (1 Viewer)

[MikeyF]

No please. We need help everywhere and need to start stockpiling draft picks. He's going top 5 from everything
i've read. It would be too costly for the current situation we're in.

It just a mock but it has him going to us at 10.
I was thinking pick 7,8,or 9 if we moved up.

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I understand we have a lot of holes to fill on both sides of the ball but it is imperative that we do something with the DL & LB.

 

[los226]

I’m not gonna put any weight on the players’ overall performance until we have a good coach in the building. Sometimes it takes a good coach to get the most out of these players.

But it’s obvious Bresee isn’t gonna turn out to be some all pro DL talent because those type of guys show out no matter the coaching.

 

[sammymvpknight]

Can he improve in the run? Well…when you’re the worst in the league, by definition you have to improve. Right?

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Can he improve in the run? Well…when you’re the worst in the league, by definition you have to improve. Right?

Yeah I guess I asked for that lol.

 

[DSnfla]

I know we dismiss PFF a lot, do we think this grade is off?

I see Bresee talked up here as a pass rusher (he’s also not graded well there either) but do you guys and gals think he can improve in the run game? 6th in sacks is nice but he has to improve in run defense imo.

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This is where PFF comes up short. His pass rush rate is way too low. He's tied for 6th among DTs and he bats down a very high # of passes , even blocked a game saving FG. PFF does not take into account the gravity of a play just a win rate. Much like an OL he can have a great win rate and give up a strip sack fumble with the game on the line and have a great PFF score.

BB IS playing out of position a lot of time , AND he had an abysmal DL coach in Grantham. Much like Penning had Marrone as an OL coach

 

[Joodas Avila]

Sacks get you paid. But the real issue is he needs a legit NT beside him.

This is exactly what it is. Get a legit 0-tech/NT to line up beside him & not only will Bresee improve vs the run, but he’ll be even more dynamic as a pass rusher.

I mean the dude has 7.5 sacks on the year from the DT position. & that’s on top of the 4.5 he had as a rotational rookie. They can hate on him all they want, but true pressure DTs are rare & we have one in Bresee. This draft is fairly stocked w/NT talent. Draft a guy like TY Robinson (NEB), Alfred Collins (TEX), Jay Toia (UCLA), Nazir Stackhouse (GA) or Dontay Corleone (CIN) on Day2 & our IDL would level up immensely.

 

[Snakehead]

Your dlineman in a 3-4 are expected to shed blocks and stop the run or at least set the gap, commanding two blockers to free up your linebackers

Bresee does neither of these. He hasn’t been coached up at all, and could be a dominate DT in the NFL. Right now he’s mostly a liability

He is, no doubt about it. Whatever defense we play, can we get a D-line coach that can develop players and maybe a DC/scheme that maximizes what we have. It's not too much to ask.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

This is exactly what it is. Get a legit 0-tech/NT to line up beside him & not only will Bresee improve vs the run, but he’ll be even more dynamic as a pass rusher.

I mean the dude has 7.5 sacks on the year from the DT position. & that’s on top of the 4.5 he had as a rotational rookie. They can hate on him all they want, but true pressure DTs are rare & we have one in Bresee. This draft is fairly stocked w/NT talent. Draft a guy like TY Robinson (NEB), Alfred Collins (TEX), Jay Toia (UCLA), Nazir Stackhouse (GA) or Dontay Corleone (CIN) on Day2 & our IDL would level up immensely.

Hope we do grab one of those guys and that Bresee continues his growth. Love the sacks, if he can improve a bit in the run game he will be a great one imo.