Police Shootings / Possible Abuse Threads [merged] (4 Viewers)

[Tapxe]

From what I understand, much like the Catholic Church with problem priests, instead of kicking them out, they just moved them to different parishes... law enforcement has some unspoken "rules" for the same. Just move problem officers from one duty station to another. I don't know if it's been studied or documented but I remember reading about something like this. Maybe someone with much more knowledge of the subject can effectively "speak" on it.

The part that gets lost in it is hiring. Wages and job duties severely limit the talent pool. But hey, we got to keep giving money to the rich so they stay even if it means the rest of us get crap. Right?

 

[Det. Brees]

I want to know why he left all those other departments. What happened there.

 

[2009ring]

I want to know why he left all those other departments. What happened there.

I had read that he worked part time at several different departments over the past few years.

Which tells me nobody liked him enough to hire him full time.

 

[DaveXA]

I had read that he worked part time at several different departments over the past few years.

Which tells me nobody liked him enough to hire him full time.

Curious if it was an attitude thing or a crummy performance review sort of thing. Or both.

 

[2009ring]

Curious if it was an attitude thing or a crummy performance review sort of thing. Or both.

One thing's for sure now - we'll likely find out at the murder trial.....

 

[DaveXA]

One thing's for sure now - we'll likely find out at the murder trial.....

No doubt.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Racism played a “significant part” in a man being kicked in the face and stamped on by police during an arrest at Manchester airport, a former Metropolitan police chief superintendent said.

Dal Babu, who served for more than 30 years in the Met, described a video of the arrest as shocking and “totally appalling”.

The video, filmed at Manchester airport on Tuesday, appears to show a man being kicked in the face and his head being stamped on by a Greater Manchester police (GMP) officer as he lies prone on the floor, with a later clip showing police shoving a woman who is attempting to de-escalate the situation.

On Thursday morning, GMP said the police officer had been suspended from all duties after a “thorough review of further information”. The force referred its actions to the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) on Wednesday.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, Babu said the force used was “totally excessive” on a man who was “effectively defenceless”, adding: “I think racism played a significant part in this.”

He said: “This is a very, very serious incident, and at a time when trust in the police is so low, this is another example of an incident where people will be further concerned. In the old days, it used to be minorities, used to be LGBTQ people, used to be young people, but now I think no matter where you go, more and more people have less confidence in the police.”…….

Racism played part in police kick incident at Manchester airport, says former senior officer

Former Met chief superintendent Dal Babu says footage of man being kicked in face by officer is ‘totally appalling’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Eeyore]

Deputy who killed Sonya Massey in Springfield was discharged from Army for serious misconduct - IPM Newsroom

Updated with additional reporting about Grayson’s claims to have been discharged honorably and the circumstances of his hire at the Sangamon County Sheriff’s Office. Sean Grayson, the former Sangamon County Sheriff’s deputy now charged with murder in the fatal shooting of Sonya Massey, was...

ipmnewsroom.org

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Deputy who killed Sonya Massey in Springfield was discharged from Army for serious misconduct - IPM Newsroom

Updated with additional reporting about Grayson’s claims to have been discharged honorably and the circumstances of his hire at the Sangamon County Sheriff’s Office. Sean Grayson, the former Sangamon County Sheriff’s deputy now charged with murder in the fatal shooting of Sonya Massey, was...

ipmnewsroom.org

OK, help me out here! WTh is a "Under Honorable Conditions (General)" discharge?????? His Box 24 entry is a LIE.

There is no such discharge characterization. It should have been, at the very least, an Other than Honorable Discharge and even that is a reach considering the reasoning says "Misconduct: Serious Offense". That only leaves 2 options: Bad Conduct or Dishonorable Discharge.

How does that fly on a DD Form 214?

 

[DaveXA]

OK, help me out here! WTh is a "Under Honorable Conditions (General)" discharge?????? His Box 24 entry is a LIE.

There is no such discharge characterization. It should have been, at the very least, an Other than Honorable Discharge and even that is a reach considering the reasoning says "Misconduct: Serious Offense". That only leaves 2 options: Bad Conduct or Dishonorable Discharge.

How does that fly on a DD Form 214?

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. I hope that guy never sees the outside a prison.

I know it ain't gonna happen, but he needs to be in gen pop. They'll give him what he deserves in there.

 

[Eeyore]

He'll cross the border to Indiana or Wisconsin and get hired on the spot.

 

[2009ring]

He'll cross the border to Indiana or Wisconsin and get hired on the spot.

Not from jail he won't. Also not as a felon.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Not from jail he won't.

Agreed.

Also not as a felon.

Not too sure about that. Considering he was kicked out of the Army, all it took was for someone to fudge his discharge status to allow him to get into law enforcement in the first place.

 

[Optimus Prime]

and six forces in 4 years should have triggered something to someone

 

[Eeyore]

https://www.wcia.com/news/sangamon-county/il-fop-sean-grayson-fired-without-just-cause-files-grievance/