Poll Preference : Dart or Sanders (2 Viewers)

[SonOfNOLA]

Are you comparing the level of competition that the two played against though?

No but now that you mentioned it, Sanders’ schedules were tougher competition than Dart’s schedules.

2023
Sanders played 6 ranked teams at the time of matchup, two were top 10.
10 of 11 games were vs Power Five.
8 games vs a predominantly ranked Pac-12.
1 game vs Big 10. 1 game vs Big 12. The non-PF game was vs state rival CSU of the G5 MW.

Dart played 5 ranked teams at the time of matchup,
1 was top 10. The other 8 games were
vs Mercer (Southern/FCS), UL-Monroe (Sun Belt),
2-10 Vanderbilt, 4-8 Arkansas, 5-7 Mississippi State,
6-7 Auburn, 7-6 GA Tech, and 7-6 Texas A&M.


2024
11 of Sanders’ 13 games were vs. Power Five/major schools. The other 2 games were vs the eventual FCS Champion and the G5 state rival who were 8-5.
5 games vs winning record major teams.

3 of Dart’s 13 games were vs. I-AA/FCS & FBS.
1 game was against a 2-win Mississippi State team.
6 games vs major teams with winning records.
2 or 3 of the 6 winning records (UGA, S. Car, LSU) would be considered stronger teams.


Sanders played against FCS Champion 14-2 North Dakota State, 7-6 Nebraska, 8-5 Colorado State, 8-5 Baylor, 4-8 Central Florida, 9-4 Kansas State, 4-8 Arizona, 5-7 Cincinnati, 8-5 Texas Tech, 5-7 Utah, 5-7 Kansas, 3-9 Oklahoma State, and 11-2 #17 BYU.

Dart played against I-AA 3-8 Furman, C-USA 3-9 Middle Tennessee State, 4-8 Wake Forest, Sun Belt 8-5 Georgia Southern, 4-8 Kentucky, 9-4 South Carolina, 9-4 LSU, 6-7 Oklahoma, 7-6 Arkansas,
11-3 #2 Georgia, 8-5 Florida, 2-10 Mississippi State, and 9-4 Duke.

 

[Noisemaker]

No way we should draft Sanders, not because of his talent, but his daddy will not let him son live his own life. Any time his son is being criticized Coach Prime will be on TV saying how bad the coaching is. He will force his son out of town to a bigger market eventually.

 

[Kingston]

If Shedeur didn’t have the last name Sanders he be a 5th round pick

That’s not true at all. He is a bonafide talent the only knock on him and the only reason I wouldn’t take him is because dad is gonna be part of the package. Dad is a huge voice and knows the game as good as anyone and knows his son better than anyone. He knows Shedeur’s strengths and his weaknesses so if he isn’t being used right Dad is gonna call whatever team on it.

If you put a microphone in front of Deon he is gonna talk and people are gonna listen. That includes front office people and ownership.

As a first time young coach that is the last thing in the world I would want or need in my life.

That is the only knock on the kid which really isn’t fair to him or his dad but it is what it is.

 

[TooDopeGoldRope]

It's a wasted pick either way. Neither one can beat out Rattler in my opinion.

He has that thing about him. It flows from him. It’s mahomes ish at times.

 

[reason2believe]

EDIT: If this were a blind poll, didn't include names, and the choices were 70.1% completion percentage / 134 career tds or 65.7% completion percentage / 81 career tds, the results would show a preference for what actually matters.

College stats don’t necessarily tell the story. What were Brady’s college stats?

 

[reason2believe]

I haven't watched enough of Sanders to form an opinion.

I saw a lot of him. I don’t like his game or his leadership.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

College stats don’t necessarily tell the story. What were Brady’s college stats?

Agreed, 4 games of Dart’s 2024 production comes from beating up on Furman, Middle Tennessee State, 4-8 Wake Forest and Georgia Southern in the first 4 weeks.

His ‘24 passing stats would repeat his 2023 stats without playing that much of lesser competition to open the season.

 

[Kingston]

Agreed, 4 games of Dart’s 2024 production comes from beating up on Furman, Middle Tennessee State, 4-8 Wake Forest and Georgia Southern at the top of the season.

His ‘24 passing stats would repeat his 2023 stats without playing that much of lesser competition to open the season.

And you can add this the coach he played for kept going for points over and over again. He wasn’t shy about running the score up on anyone or anybody. That could have been an SEC opponent or Poly-Tec Trucking University of Blue Mountain South East Tennessee.

So a good deal of his stats are inflated a bit because he didn’t get pulled when a lot of other coaches would have taken their foot off the gas.

 

[FlySaint]

No but now that you mentioned it, Sanders’ schedules were tougher competition than Dart’s schedules.

2023
Sanders played 6 ranked teams at the time of matchup, two were top 10.
10 of 11 games were vs Power Five.
8 games vs a strong Pac-12. 1 game vs Big 10.
1 game vs Big 12. The non-PF game was vs state rival CSU of the G5 MW.

Dart played 5 ranked teams at the time of matchup,
1 was top 10. The other 8 games were vs Mercer (Southern/FCS), UL-Monroe (Sun Belt),
2-10 Vanderbilt, 4-8 Arkansas, 5-7 Mississippi State,
6-7 Auburn, 7-6 GA Tech, and 7-6 Texas A&M.


2024
11 of Sanders’ 13 games were vs. Power Five/major schools. The other 2 games were vs the eventual FCS Champion and the G5 state rival who were 8-5.
5 games vs winning record major teams.

3 of Dart’s 13 games were vs. I-AA/FCS & FBS.
1 game was against a 2-win Mississippi State team.
6 games vs major teams with winning records.
2 or 3 of the 6 winning records (UGA, S. Car, LSU) would be considered stronger teams.


Sanders played against FCS Champion 14-2 North Dakota State, 7-6 Nebraska, 8-5 Colorado State, 8-5 Baylor, 4-8 Central Florida, 9-4 Kansas State, 4-8 Arizona, 5-7 Cincinnati, 8-5 Texas Tech, 5-7 Utah, 5-7 Kansas, 3-9 Oklahoma State, and 11-2 #17 BYU.

Dart played against I-AA 3-8 Furman, C-USA 3-9 Middle Tennessee State, 4-8 Wake Forest, I-AA 8-5 Georgia Southern, 4-8 Kentucky, 9-4 South Carolina, 9-4 LSU, 6-7 Oklahoma, 7-6 Arkansas,
11-3 #2 Georgia, 8-5 Florida, 2-10 Mississippi State, and 9-4 Duke.

7-6 Arkansas was better than anyone Colorado played with the possible exception of BYU.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

7-6 Arkansas was better than anyone Colorado played with the possible exception of BYU.

7-6 Arkansas lost to 3-9 Oklahoma State.
Colorado beat Oklahoma State 52 to 0 in the same season.

 

[IlovemySaints]

7-6 Arkansas lost to 3-9 Oklahoma State.
Colorado beat Oklahoma State 52 to 0 in the same season.

Facts lol

 

[madsaint1967]

WoW so many think Dart is better than Sanders??? Embarrassing to be a whodat right now....

Why? Dart played and produced in the big boy league. He should easily make the discussion. It’s embarrassing that we can’t have that conversation.

 

[BIGSAINTSFAN]

EDIT: If this were a blind poll, didn't include names, and the choices were 70.1% completion percentage / 134 career tds or 65.7% completion percentage / 81 career tds, the results would show a preference for what actually matters.

I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND I AGREE!

 

[BIGSAINTSFAN]

I don't mind Rattler having competition. I just don't want to waste the 9th pick on someone that I feel can't beat him out. I really don't want to use any picks in the first 4 rounds on a QB with all the holes we have to fill. Also Aikman went 0-11 his rookie season with a rating in the 50's

AS WE REMEMBER ALSO PEYTON MANNING GOING 3-13 HIS FIRST SEASON. GIVE RATTLER A CHANCE TO GROW!