RB Ashton Jeanty as the Saints 1st pick? (3 Viewers)

[St. Geezy]

I can’t get past page 2 of this thread. Same people comparing this dude to the greatest running backs of all time and also think he will be there at 10 is just amusing to me. Don’t see both being true if it’s that obvious he is a hall of fame talent like Barry or AP.

Adrian Peterson was considered a generational back and was picked 7th. This is within our general range.

 

[Mamba]

It doesn't take much to be AK with homerun speed since AK doesn't have homerun speed. My eyes tell me that Jeanty is faster than AK. He literally runs faster in the open field. These guys chasing him aren't 5.0 guys, the lower levels have fast guys as well and those fast guys aren't catching him. He's not 4.2/4.3, but he's faster than AK.

Well, I disagree. And you yourself guesstimated he was a 4.5 guy. Ironically, that’s precisely what Kamara ran coming out in the draft.

 

[Mamba]

I think a potential generational RB is worth a first round pick depending on our grade on him and how the draft board falls, and you don’t…great. lol

I’ll go on record and say I don’t believe he’s a generational RB. I think he’ll be very good. But not “special.”

 

[SonOfNOLA]

I can’t get past page 2 of this thread. Same people comparing this dude to the greatest running backs of all time and also think he will be there at 10 is just amusing to me. Don’t see both being true if it’s that obvious he is a hall of fame talent like Barry or AP.

Teams picking in front of the Saints all have young lead backs and need a QB or Left Tackle. Teams immediately picking behind the Saints also have their backs.

Bengals and Cowboys at #13-#14, 3-4 spots behind the Saints, is where Jeanty could be considered. But Cincy’s 2nd year back Chase Brown is approaching 1k after taking over as RB1 in Week 4. They aren’t lacking a run game. Cincy needs to fix their defense badly. Dallas let Elliott and Pollard walk for Rico Dowdle in recent years and lack starting D-Linemen more than the Saints.

Next 4 teams after Dallas (SF, Atl, Ari, Sea) also have their lead backs and a RB2. If Jeanty is on the board when Dallas, Cincy, or Chargers pick, I think theres a strong chance either will select him. But don’t see anyone trading up 3-10 spots and giving up early round picks for RB mainly because they lack pass catchers, DBs, and pass rushers more than RB.

 

[St. Geezy]

I’ll go on record and say I don’t believe he’s a generational RB. I think he’ll be very good. But not “special.”

I think that’s fair. My hypothetical is very contingent on how we have him graded.

 

[Snakehead]

Well, I disagree. And you yourself guesstimated he was a 4.5 guy. Ironically, that’s precisely what Kamara ran coming out in the draft.

That's the great thing about opinions.

 

[AARPSaint]

But if he is there, how badly would a team with a bigger RB need than us be willing to give up to get him. I think that would be the play.

Just because Loomis’s constant trading up irritates me so much, I’d love it if he traded back—for once. No more reaches for needs prompting trade-ups.

 

[BreesusSaves]

One thing I would love to hear is how the Saints can pass on any player that is the consensus BPA? We all know that the BPA will not be a Kicker, Punter, or Long Snapper, so please, by all means, tell me what position group are the Saints just so overwhelmingly loaded that they should not take the best damn player on the board, period?

I'm not even talking about Jeanty either. Of all the potential BPA options, please explain why the Saints are oh so good at a position group they should pass on the most talented player available and instead take one less talented but fills a "more pressing" need?

I hate to break it to a lot of ya'll still living in 2018, but the 2024/25 Saints have more holes than swiss cheese.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

One thing I would love to hear is how the Saints can pass on any player that is the consensus BPA? We all know that the BPA will not be a Kicker, Punter, or Long Snapper, so please, by all means, tell me what position group are the Saints just so overwhelmingly loaded that they should not take the best damn player on the board, period?

I'm not even talking about Jeanty either. Of all the potential BPA options, please explain why the Saints are oh so good at a position group they should pass on the most talented player available and instead take one less talented but fills a "more pressing" need?

I hate to break it to a lot of ya'll still living in 2018, but the 2024/25 Saints have more holes than swiss cheese.

Because RB is no longer a premier position and it's the one offensive skill position we already have talent at.

Drafting Jeanty wouldn't make any sense unless we are trading AK.

 

[BreesusSaves]

Because RB is no longer a premier position and it's the one offensive skill position we already have talent at.

Drafting Jeanty wouldn't make any sense unless we are trading AK.

30 year old AK and Miller's hamstrings means the Saints should pass on Jeanty if he is their highest ranked player when they pick?

 

[SonOfNOLA]

I would argue it's easier to find immediate starters at RB and WR in the 2nd & 3rd rounds. IMO, the Saints need a true difference maker either on the edge or inside next to Bresee. Much more likely to find that with a premium pick in the top 15.

After Mason Graham, there doesn’t seem to be a clear cut difference-making DL in the premium pick range.

Next best DT prospect isn’t top 10 worthy. Edge is a must top 10 pick if there’s a productive starter lacking at DE2 going into the draft. If Chase Young is re-signed, the top 10-13 seems too expensive for a rotational 3rd DE. A top 10 range player would have to be an every down or featured starter by year 2, whether its S, DE, DT, G, RB, WR, or TE.

Evaluation of the available draft board should be able to determine the pick more than the position. I think DE depth is needed. But it’s very hard to seeing a rotational DE as the automatic preferred pick above a clear cut starter at another position. It’s easier to let the draft board unfold on its own to make the pick.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

30 year old AK and Miller's hamstrings means the Saints should pass on Jeanty if he is their highest ranked player when they pick?

Yes. We just resigned AK to be one of the highest paid RBs in the NFL. If you want to pick a RB that's fine grab one later in the draft.

We just spent a premium pick on RB who hasn't helped us win games so you want to spend a top 10 pick on one?

Meanwhile we have zero recievers, a complete lack of iDL talent outside Bresee, zero LB depth, zero safety depth, and CB is a question with Alontae playing terrible.

Drafting Jeanty would be fine since he's a talented player but we have huge massive needs that should be addressed before we have the luxury of picking a RB with a top 10 pick.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

I’ll go on record and say I don’t believe he’s a generational RB. I think he’ll be very good. But not “special.”

I'll agree I don't see him as "generational" either. That term is thrown around too often, it only takes a couple of years ago to find Bijan who I have ahead of Jeanty as a prospect.

Jeanty will be good but he's not "generational".

 

[St. Geezy]

One thing I would love to hear is how the Saints can pass on any player that is the consensus BPA? We all know that the BPA will not be a Kicker, Punter, or Long Snapper, so please, by all means, tell me what position group are the Saints just so overwhelmingly loaded that they should not take the best damn player on the board, period?

I'm not even talking about Jeanty either. Of all the potential BPA options, please explain why the Saints are oh so good at a position group they should pass on the most talented player available and instead take one less talented but fills a "more pressing" need?

I hate to break it to a lot of ya'll still living in 2018, but the 2024/25 Saints have more holes than swiss cheese.

Exactly. I find it amusing that for as downtrodden as our team has been, as difficult scoring has been for us, and how downright BORING our team has been, that there is a contingent of fans turning their noses up at a guy that led the nation in yards with a healthy 800-yard lead, led it in touchdowns, and was sitting at the Heisman ceremony a week ago.

I mean, I get it, we have other needs, but if the grade comes in very high, we are not in position to say “Oh we don’t want that guy because we need to fortify our OL depth.”

I’d imagine we will knock out some of those needs prior to the draft anyway.

Not to mention the non-football aspect on that the fanbase could probably use the jolt of excitement a player like Jeanty would bring.

I’m not saying it’s the move to make; I am just saying that if the board plays out in that manner and his grade is that high, you don’t then turnaround and downgrade him “because running back.”

 

[Mamba]

Exactly. I find it amusing that for as downtrodden as our team has been, as difficult scoring has been for us, and how downright BORING our team has been, that there is a contingent of fans turning their noses up at a guy that led the nation in yards with a healthy 800-yard lead, led it in touchdowns, and was sitting at the Heisman ceremony a week ago.

This precise argument could've been made regarding Ron Dayne in 2000. Leading the NCAA in yards and winning the Heisman (which Dayne did) does not mean a player should be a slam dunk top 10 pick, even in a vacuum. Let alone when you're a franchise (1) whose season fell apart when your already questionable starting O-Line started piling up injuries, (2) whose starting D-Line doesn't consistently stop the run or get to the QB, and (3) who just extended Alvin Kamara and have Kendre Miller who is starting to emerge. Unless we're truly talking about a "generational talent," and I don't believe Jeanty fits that description, I would be disappointed if the Saints took a RB in the top 10 in any year, but especially this one.