Report: Vrabel's OC could be McDaniels [mod edit] (12 Viewers)

[MikeyF]

Based on what Underhill and Trip talked about, if you keep Carr in 2025 you pay 30mil this year and 20mil in 2026 regardless if he’s on the team or not.

If you cut him you pay 50mil this year and you’re clean in 2026.

No matter what, this is a two year job. I think Denver/SP set a good model for what you’re able to do w/ good coaching and a limited Cap.

We should cut Carr and roll w/ Spencer. And that’s me making a hard left from what I felt around 5pm yesterday

I'm not a cap guru but I thought if Carr accepted a trade some of cap hit would be transferred to the receiving team.

If McDaniel's became the OC, Carr would immediately ask to be released or traded...

 

[Elvis]

I’d rather pass on that combo honestly. Vrabel did get a raw deal with the Titans, but I’m not sure he could do much with this roster. McDaniels is a bit of a head case. Not sure I’d even prefer him to Kubiak.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

I'm not a cap guru but I thought if Carr accepted a trade some of cap hit would be transferred to the receiving team.

If McDaniel's became the OC, Carr would immediately ask to be released or traded...

I'm not sure, perhaps they could drum up a trade market.

Personally, I didn't like Carr's PR handling of saying he wouldn't take a paycut, unprompted. Katt Terrel didn't ask him about it, he just spewed it out. While Carr has played well, he's also not played 50million well. If he's cut, no team is going to pay him 30 mil (which I think is what the other team would be on hook for), so it's unlikely that they'll trade for him at that price either.

 

[MikeyF]

I'm not sure, perhaps they could drum up a trade market.

Personally, I didn't like Carr's PR handling of saying he wouldn't take a paycut, unprompted. Katt Terrel didn't ask him about it, he just spewed it out. While Carr has played well, he's also not played 50million well. If he's cut, no team is going to pay him 30 mil (which I think is what the other team would be on hook for), so it's unlikely that they'll trade for him at that price either.

 

[MarylandWHODAT]

Vrable nor McDaniels are coming to New Orleans.

This has New England written all over it.

 

[SystemShock]

While Josh McDaniels is somehow worse of a head coach then Dennis Allen, he's still a good coordinator.

When he had Tom Brady, sure he was.

 

[SAINTSFAN]

I'm not a cap guru but I thought if Carr accepted a trade some of cap hit would be transferred to the receiving team.

If McDaniel's became the OC, Carr would immediately ask to be released or traded...

Carr has a no-trade clause IIRC.

 

[St. Widge]

Carr has a no-trade clause IIRC.

Yep. He would have to agree to a trade and he likely would not do that without it being a playoff contender with either a guarantee to pay his current salary or a new long term deal with a new team. None of that seems likely to happen.

 

[jahsoul357]

When he had Tom Brady, sure he was.

You might need to look at the 2008, 2021, and 2022 NFL seasons...lol. I would not want him as an HC but I would take him every day of the week and twice on Sunday as an OC.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

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Give me some context, what ma I looking at outside of the cap hit?

 

[DeuceMcAllisterFan]

Yep. He would have to agree to a trade and he likely would not do that without it being a playoff contender with either a guarantee to pay his current salary or a new long term deal with a new team. None of that seems likely to happen.

Since this is a Vrabel thread, you think he'll waive that NTC with McDaniels as the OC?

 

[MikeyF]

Carr has a no-trade clause IIRC.

That is why I said he would ask to be traded...
A no-trade clause only means that he has to approve any trade.

 

[Elvis]

Carr has a no-trade clause IIRC.

I think his point is that there is no way Carr would want to work for Josh McDaniels again and would want to find a way out of NO if he were hired.

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[BoNcHiE]

Yeah I don't see Vrabel coming here.

Our next coach will be whoever is left after New England, Chicago, Jags, and the Jets (and maybe the Raiders) make their hires.

Too much doom.

The Jets have awful ownership, and a washed Aaron Rodgers who will be forced on the next coach. It’s a graveyard for head coaches. The Raiders also have a penchant for not giving coaches time to build before firing them, and that’s the toughest division in football. Anybody that goes there has little chance to win and retain their job and is likely looking at being fired within two seasons.

People underestimate what 3-4 years of job security in a middling division means for a HCing prospect if he’s got a real plan to succeed.

Even the Jags are heavily flawed with an awful GM no one wants to work for and a bazillion dollar below average QB.

 

[MikeyF]

Give me some context, what ma I looking at outside of the cap hit?

He isn't on the crazy high end of QB contracts & he isn't on the low end of starting QB contracts.

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We are overpaying him to the tune of $10 million next year...
It would take a team that has playoff aspiration that would want Carr in a trade.
The good thing about his contract is that the cap hit becomes more manageable in 2026.