Report: Vrabel's OC could be McDaniels [mod edit] (15 Viewers)

[kjun3724]

"ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler reports “there is buzz” that former Patriots OC and Raiders HC Josh McDaniels could be a candidate to be Mike Vrabel’s offensive coordinator."

If this happens we are either eating Carr's cap hit and playing with basement finds in FA or the next two years will be verbal fireworks and worse offense since god knows when.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

There’s no guarantee that the other HC candidates will want to keep Carr either. Particularly Kingsbury, when you look at the history of the QB types that they’ve worked with.

It seems more likely that Carr will remain as its easier on the cap. But still possible the team would move on if a HC candidate wants a different QB under center to start their tenure.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

While Josh McDaniels is somehow worse of a head coach then Dennis Allen, he's still a good coordinator.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

There’s no guarantee that the other HC candidates will want to keep Carr either. Particularly Kingsbury, when you look at the history of the QB types that they’ve worked with.

It seems more likely that Carr will remain as its easier on the cap. But still possible the team would move on if a HC candidate wants a different QB under center to start their tenure.

Based on what Underhill and Trip talked about, if you keep Carr in 2025 you pay 30mil this year and 20mil in 2026 regardless if he’s on the team or not.

If you cut him you pay 50mil this year and you’re clean in 2026.

No matter what, this is a two year job. I think Denver/SP set a good model for what you’re able to do w/ good coaching and a limited Cap.

We should cut Carr and roll w/ Spencer. And that’s me making a hard left from what I felt around 5pm yesterday

 

[silverbullet]

If one of the prerequisites for the new coach is keeping Carr, then it's doomed to begin with.

Carr should be gone now. Eat the hit. Dude cannot be on the team next year.

 

[Winter]

Glenn, Rizzi or Gruden would almost guarantee we keep Carr. Any other coach and its up for debate. I don't mind Carr. A healthy team and right coaching and he's a top QB in the league. We could do a lot worse. That being said, its a difficult situation and if we are serious about getting out of this funk, rolling with Rattler next year is not a bad idea. Heck, he could still turn out to be the guy we're all wishing for.

 

[DeuceMcAllisterFan]

McDaniels is absolutely a terrible head coach but he isn't a bad coordinator.

 

[TenTwo]

Yikes

 

[St. Widge]

Glenn, Rizzi or Gruden would almost guarantee we keep Carr. Any other coach and its up for debate. I don't mind Carr. A healthy team and right coaching and he's a top QB in the league. We could do a lot worse. That being said, its a difficult situation and if we are serious about getting out of this funk, rolling with Rattler next year is not a bad idea. Heck, he could still turn out to be the guy we're all wishing for.

Gruden almost certainly given his prior relationship with Carr. But I don't know about Rizzi or Glenn. Glenn has no connection to Carr and I suspect who he wants at QB will depend on who he would hire are the OC. Rizzi might be a fan of Carr, but we also really don't know. Maybe he like Rattler's upside or maybe he wants a better leader at QB?

 

[SAINTSFAN]

"ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler reports “there is buzz” that former Patriots OC and Raiders HC Josh McDaniels could be a candidate to be Mike Vrabel’s offensive coordinator."

If this happens we are either eating Carr's cap hit and playing with basement finds in FA or the next two years will be verbal fireworks and worse offense since god knows when.

If true, sure smells like they are headed to New England.

 

[Winter]

Gruden almost certainly given his prior relationship with Carr. But I don't know about Rizzi or Glenn. Glenn has no connection to Carr and I suspect who he wants at QB will depend on who he would hire are the OC. Rizzi might be a fan of Carr, but we also really don't know. Maybe he like Rattler's upside or maybe he wants a better leader at QB?

True, I think with Glenn or Rizzi we get more of the same with the report of Glenn keeping coaching staff. They could totally go in a different direction but with those guys I don't expect a drastic change to the team as it would be more of a Loomis hire than anything else. So yeah not a guarantee but more likely than if we brought in someone fresh imo.

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

If true, sure smells like they are headed to New England.

Yeah I don't see Vrabel coming here.

Our next coach will be whoever is left after New England, Chicago, Jags, and the Jets (and maybe the Raiders) make their hires.

 

[SWJJ]

Never been a fan of McDaniels.

What has he ever done without Brady at QB?

 

[St. Widge]

True, I think with Glenn or Rizzi we get more of the same with the report of Glenn keeping coaching staff. They could totally go in a different direction but with those guys I don't expect a drastic change to the team as it would be more of a Loomis hire than anything else. So yeah not a guarantee but more likely than if we brought in someone fresh imo.

I don't really buy that Glenn would keep the coaching staff or that he would just be a yes man to Loomis. Glenn has interviews with all 6 teams. He's an in demand coach so he doesn't have to settle for a job where he is a yes man to the GM. Plus, Glenn only spent a little over 4 years here as a player and coach total. It's not even the team that he spent the most time with.

And that's if it's even true that Loomis wants a yes man. Frankly, I think what Loomis wants is to hire the right coach to turn this around and save his job and legacy as Saints GM. If this hire fails, he will be remember as the guy that destroyed the Payton era team, not the guy that helped to build it. As I've said before I don't think Loomis' problem is that he wants yes men, his problem is that he is a yes man for any head coach he hires and gives them whatever they want. That worked when Payton was the head coach but was a disaster with DA as head coach because he agreed to do whatever dumb thing DA wanted him to do like overload the cap to sign Carr to a huge deal and tried to trade for Watson.

 

[DeuceMcAllisterFan]

Never been a fan of McDaniels.

What has he ever done without Brady at QB?

He took Mac Jones to the playoffs and made him look like a star while having the 6th rated offense in 2021.