Ross Jackson explores a Carr trade to Giants [ESPN NFL Nation Giants reporter Jordan Raanan says Derek Carr could be a trade option for Giants]

[Rouxble]

Does Carr want to waive his trade clause for another coach on the hot seat?

 

[No2DC]

Isn't this a decision for a new coach to make?

 

[Goatman Saint]

Sounds great. Six pack of warm bud light and it’s a deal

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Didn’t want to start a thread, just saw this, did Cam try to force a trade????

8-time Pro Bowler considered forcing his way out of New Orleans

Cameron Jordan has been a Saint for the last 14 years, and has often expressed a desire to finish his career with the New Orleans Saints. His father, Steve Jordan, played his entire career with the Minnesota Vikings, and the younger Jordan hoped to do the same. But…

saintswire.usatoday.com

 

[lapaz]

I hope they don’t trade him. The only issue has been injuries, but Carr is a good QB. He would lead a great offense given weapons. Draft choices are huge gambles after the first round. Rattler is not ready, and we don’t know if he ever will be. Carr can lead us to a superbowl if given some weapons and a decent defense.

 

[Ghost]

This is bizarre, consider:
1. Carr has a no trade clause. He used it to his advantage with the Raiders, there is no reason to think he won't do it with the Saints.

2. Carr will only restructure, he has said as much. That means his contract isn't going away easily.

3. No team or specifically GM is going to be dumb enough for an Osweiler or Watson type trade. If they want to keep their job that is. Certainly not for the level of play Carr represents.

4. The Saints are in (roughly) the same position that the Raiders were at the end of his time there. All that cheering about how (paraphrasing) "he was just let go and the Saints didn't give up any picks! Hah suck it Raiders!" That position is EXACTLY where the Saints and the fans are now.

5. Given point 4 just what is the market for Carr? Its a very strong contention that the Saints were competing against themselves last time. Jets? Wasn't happening. Just was the market for Carr last time? (crickets.)

Now? even worse. There is (likely) less of a market and now coming off season ending injuries? If people are talking about a tiny market for Darnold? There probably is even less for Carr.

6. If a team is interested, why won't they do what the Saints did and just wait and not have to give up anything? The Saints stupidly gave him a no trade clause AND extended him. The Saints have zero leverage in this situation and Carr knows it.

7. The New York media would be brutal with him and going back to his time with the Raiders he didn't handle criticism well. If people want to argue that is inaccurate? OK. Then does anyone see him handling the cauldron of NY sports media well? I don't. Imagine him on the receiving end of the criticism leveled at Jones.

I really don't see a team that is going step in to save the Saints FO from it's own stupidity.

 

[ATLien]

Mickey doesn’t tank

Mickey doesn't TRY to tank.

 

[SaintLIX]

Please trade the Carr, it's a lemon!

 

[St. Widge]

Does Carr want to waive his trade clause for another coach on the hot seat?

Maybe he wants to add to his body count?

 

[Treybad]

What's the cap hit if we were to trade Carr

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

What's the cap hit if we were to trade Carr

Can’t remember which post but it’s all broken down in the thread, think by Elvis if memory serves.

 

[St. Geezy]

Didn’t want to start a thread, just saw this, did Cam try to force a trade????

8-time Pro Bowler considered forcing his way out of New Orleans

Cameron Jordan has been a Saint for the last 14 years, and has often expressed a desire to finish his career with the New Orleans Saints. His father, Steve Jordan, played his entire career with the Minnesota Vikings, and the younger Jordan hoped to do the same. But…

saintswire.usatoday.com

Makes sense, if you recall his behavior after the game. Wouldn’t be surprised if this was the catalyst in itself that got the process started that week for Allen to be fired.

When you have a stalwart, fun-loving player like that behaving the way Jordan did then demanding a trade, that’s going to raise some eyebrows.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Makes sense, if you recall his behavior after the game. Wouldn’t be surprised if this was the catalyst in itself that got the process started that week for Allen to be fired.

When you have a stalwart, fun-loving player like that behaving the way Jordan did then demanding a trade, that’s going to raise some eyebrows.

True dat, and I can’t blame him at all. Don’t think his value would be too high but I’d be sad to see him not spend his entire career as a Saint. One of my favorite players ever. Seems like an amazing person to boot, hoping he stays.

And before anyone says washed up, he’s no worse than Turner or Foskey. Heck he could probably play until he was 73 and not be any worse than those two.

 

[No2DC]

Unless the plan is to bomb next year, that's not a good move, especially without an HC. I'm okay with sucking next year to get us our future QB.