SaintLIX
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Please trade the Carr, it's a lemon!
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Does Carr want to waive his trade clause for another coach on the hot seat?
Can’t remember which post but it’s all broken down in the thread, think by Elvis if memory serves.What's the cap hit if we were to trade Carr
Didn’t want to start a thread, just saw this, did Cam try to force a trade????
8-time Pro Bowler considered forcing his way out of New Orleans
Tensions got so high in 2024 that lifelong New Orleans Saints defensive end Cameron Jordan almost took his father’s advice and requested a trade:saintswire.usatoday.com
True dat, and I can’t blame him at all. Don’t think his value would be too high but I’d be sad to see him not spend his entire career as a Saint. One of my favorite players ever. Seems like an amazing person to boot, hoping he stays.Makes sense, if you recall his behavior after the game. Wouldn’t be surprised if this was the catalyst in itself that got the process started that week for Allen to be fired.
When you have a stalwart, fun-loving player like that behaving the way Jordan did then demanding a trade, that’s going to raise some eyebrows.
I would agree with letting the HC decide, I doubt any serious trade talks will take place until a coach is in place.Unless the plan is to bomb next year, that's not a good move, especially without an HC. I'm okay with sucking next year to get us our future QB.
I think the Saints have some leverage regarding a possible trade. If Carr agrees to waive his no trade clause, he gets to keep his full salary.This is bizarre, consider:
1. Carr has a no trade clause. He used it to his advantage with the Raiders, there is no reason to think he won't do it with the Saints.
2. Carr will only restructure, he has said as much. That means his contract isn't going away easily.
3. No team or specifically GM is going to be dumb enough for an Osweiler or Watson type trade. If they want to keep their job that is. Certainly not for the level of play Carr represents.
4. The Saints are in (roughly) the same position that the Raiders were at the end of his time there. All that cheering about how (paraphrasing) "he was just let go and the Saints didn't give up any picks! Hah suck it Raiders!" That position is EXACTLY where the Saints and the fans are now.
5. Given point 4 just what is the market for Carr? Its a very strong contention that the Saints were competing against themselves last time. Jets? Wasn't happening. Just was the market for Carr last time? (crickets.)
Now? even worse. There is (likely) less of a market and now coming off season ending injuries? If people are talking about a tiny market for Darnold? There probably is even less for Carr.
6. If a team is interested, why won't they do what the Saints did and just wait and not have to give up anything? The Saints stupidly gave him a no trade clause AND extended him. The Saints have zero leverage in this situation and Carr knows it.
7. The New York media would be brutal with him and going back to his time with the Raiders he didn't handle criticism well. If people want to argue that is inaccurate? OK. Then does anyone see him handling the cauldron of NY sports media well? I don't. Imagine him on the receiving end of the criticism leveled at Jones.
I really don't see a team that is going step in to save the Saints FO from it's own stupidity.
All 12 years of Carr's career his apologists have been saying that. If we continue to kick the can down the road with Carr then it will always be "next year we are going to be the 9-7 giants from 13 years ago.Making the playoffs (winning your division) is every team's goal to start with... anything can happen from there.
2011 Giants won the SB after going 9-7 in the regular season.
The key is “if he waives his no trade clause.”I think the Saints have some leverage regarding a possible trade. If Carr agrees to waive his no trade clause, he gets to keep his full salary.
If the Saints cut him, he’ll be playing on a one year prove it deal like Russell Wilson.
If he’s released, him and his agent can market his services and show teams what he “put on tape”