Ross Jackson explores a Carr trade to Giants [ESPN NFL Nation Giants reporter Jordan Raanan says Derek Carr could be a trade option for Giants] (4 Viewers)

[Vision]

I’d do it for a 4th. lol

Pack Haener in his carry on as a bonus.

 

[St. Geezy]

Not sure if it’s been brought up, but I wonder if something like this happened, if it would be something like the Osweiler deal, where we send over an asset in exchange for them taking on more of the cash burden.

 

[St. Geezy]

In other sports teams give picks to offload bad contracts, is that not able to be done in the NFL? I’ve tried to look it up, tyia for any clarification….although I’m assuming it can’t be done in the NFL….

Yes…Brock Osweiler is an example.

 

[ATLien]

I'd do it for a 5th. We got a 5th we can give 'em?

 

[Elvis]

Not sure if it’s been brought up, but I wonder if something like this happened, if it would be something like the Osweiler deal, where we send over an asset in exchange for them taking on more of the cash burden.

But that was guaranteed salary, not prorated bonus. You can't transfer money that has already been paid. Which is why the kicking the can cap strategy can cripple a team.

 

[AARPSaint]

If Carr is traded, then the starting QB would be……….?

 

[St. Geezy]

But that was guaranteed salary, not prorated bonus. You can't transfer money that has already been paid. Which is why the kicking the can cap strategy can cripple a team.

Agree on the guaranteed salary part but disagree that this has anything whatsoever to do with the kicking the can strategy.

If you sign a guy to a large contract you end up regretting, you’re going to get hit extremely hard regardless, just like Russell Wilson in Denver.

No one is signing someone to a large long term deal and getting out of it cleanly after two seasons.

Denver had a $53m hit last year and $32m hit this year on Wilson. If you get burned on a big ticket player, you pay dearly no matter what accounting system you use.

 

[Elvis]

Agree on the guaranteed salary part but disagree that this has anything whatsoever to do with the kicking the can strategy.

If you sign a guy to a large contract you end up regretting, you’re going to get hit extremely hard regardless, just like Russell Wilson in Denver.

No one is signing someone to a large long term deal and getting out of it cleanly after two seasons.

Denver had a $53m hit last year and $32m hit this year on Wilson. If you get burned on a big ticket player, you pay dearly no matter what accounting system you use.

The kicking the can part of his cap hit is the only problem with his contract. Otherwise we could cut him and only take on $10m in dead money. It was the past restructures that we can't get out of.

 

[Saint Droopy]

Man who gave Carr a no-trade clause

 

[St. Geezy]

The kicking the can part of his cap hit is the only problem with his contract. Otherwise we could cut him and only take on $10m in dead money. It was the past restructures that we can't get out of.

The kicking the can is how we signed him in the first place though. We couldn’t sign him otherwise.

Sure, we NOW know we shouldn’t have done it, but at the time, that was the only way to execute the deal that the football side wanted.

We knew the day we signed him that his deal would involve constant restructuring.

 

[Elvis]

The kicking the can is how we signed him in the first place though. We couldn’t sign him otherwise.

Sure, we NOW know we shouldn’t have done it, but at the time, that was the only way to execute the deal that the football side wanted.

And that changes what I said how? It was a bad contract that should never have been given out in the first place. Many of us knew that then and the habit of giving coaches everything they want despite not being able to afford it hasn't worked out very well since it started with Payton. But at least back then we had Brees. You're just making my case for me at this point.

 

[St. Geezy]

And that changes what I said how? It was a bad contract that should never have been given out in the first place. Many of us knew that then and the habit of giving coaches everything they want despite not being able to afford it hasn't worked out very well since it started with Payton. But at least back then we had Brees. You're just making my case for me at this point.

Are we talking about the restructuring strategy or the personnel decision? I’m getting confused. Feels like a moving target.

Yes, it was a bad contract. I literally said in my post that we now regret it now that we know the result in that it hasn’t worked out.

What is the dispute? My only point is that the contract structure hasn’t made getting out of it that much more egregious of a task than it would be for another player, like Wilson, with a large money deal.

 

[j4m2b]

Where's Swimmer?

Brah! When there are rumors we trading for burrow, he will show up….lol

 

[Filaphill]

They don't have to compensate us anything just take him, but you have to give up something I'll take a 6 or 7th rd pick.

 

[Cgrob81]

Whatever. As long as they draft Cam Ward