Ross Jackson explores a Carr trade to Giants [ESPN NFL Nation Giants reporter Jordan Raanan says Derek Carr could be a trade option for Giants] (43 Viewers)

According to Mascona (video below) if the Saints designate Carr as a june 1 cut his cap hit for '25 is 11 mil, and 28 mil in 2026. If he plays this year its 50 mil on the cap.

Under no circumstances do you restructure him again. You either cut him now or let him play. I vote the former.

 
Are we talking about the restructuring strategy or the personnel decision? I’m getting confused. Feels like a moving target.

Yes, it was a bad contract. I literally said in my post that we now regret it now that we know the result in that it hasn’t worked out.

What is the dispute?
Not a moving target. Both exist together and separately.

Strategy: The contract structure was the result of the restructuring strategy before he even signed here and it compounded the problem further. His agent knew the shape our cap was in and worked us over. And while we're having this discussion, Khai is likely working up the plan to kick another $20+ million again this year.

Personnel: We did that for a player that was signed for the ego of the head coach we just fired. There was little to no competition for Carr, especially at that price. We could have rolled with Taysom or Jameis or some other $4-5 million QB for a season or two and not been in this position. With the same results.
 

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I hope they don’t trade him. The only issue has been injuries, but Carr is a good QB. He would lead a great offense given weapons. Draft choices are huge gambles after the first round. Rattler is not ready, and we don’t know if he ever will be. Carr can lead us to a superbowl if given some weapons and a decent defense.
 
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This is bizarre, consider:
1. Carr has a no trade clause. He used it to his advantage with the Raiders, there is no reason to think he won't do it with the Saints.

2. Carr will only restructure, he has said as much. That means his contract isn't going away easily.

3. No team or specifically GM is going to be dumb enough for an Osweiler or Watson type trade. If they want to keep their job that is. Certainly not for the level of play Carr represents.

4. The Saints are in (roughly) the same position that the Raiders were at the end of his time there. All that cheering about how (paraphrasing) "he was just let go and the Saints didn't give up any picks! Hah suck it Raiders!" That position is EXACTLY where the Saints and the fans are now.

5. Given point 4 just what is the market for Carr? Its a very strong contention that the Saints were competing against themselves last time. Jets? Wasn't happening. Just was the market for Carr last time? (crickets.)

Now? even worse. There is (likely) less of a market and now coming off season ending injuries? If people are talking about a tiny market for Darnold? There probably is even less for Carr.

6. If a team is interested, why won't they do what the Saints did and just wait and not have to give up anything? The Saints stupidly gave him a no trade clause AND extended him. The Saints have zero leverage in this situation and Carr knows it.

7. The New York media would be brutal with him and going back to his time with the Raiders he didn't handle criticism well. If people want to argue that is inaccurate? OK. Then does anyone see him handling the cauldron of NY sports media well? I don't. Imagine him on the receiving end of the criticism leveled at Jones.

I really don't see a team that is going step in to save the Saints FO from it's own stupidity.
 

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