Saints Cap Moves: $33,780,933 cap space ….. 8 restructures, 3 extensions, 3 pay cut, 1 release [All current cap moves are in OP below line] (143 Viewers)

[saintsfan26]

McCoy is our best player. Yes I said it.

 

[St. Geezy]

Speaking of…saw this while scrolling twitter just now.
I don’t recognize the middle player.

lol...Took me a minute too but I guessed correctly. That guy doesn't get in front of the camera much. Not very recognizable.

 

[soggymoss84]

According to OTC’s max restructure notes it looks like we can create up to 47.3 million in cap space by restructuring everyone possible. So we have the ability to go alot of different ways with how we approach clearing the space this season, but for sure paycuts for Cam, Taysom and Carr will be incoming.

Restructure Potential | Over the Cap

Restructure Potential | Over the Cap

overthecap.com

 

[St. Geezy]

According to OTC’s max restructure notes it looks like we can create up to 47.3 million in cap space by restructuring everyone possible. So we have the ability to go alot of different ways with how we approach clearing the space this season, but for sure paycuts for Cam, Taysom and Carr will be incoming.

Restructure Potential | Over the Cap

Restructure Potential | Over the Cap

overthecap.com

Yep. Been saying it all along that we can came about $40m but I forgot about the additional cap increase. We’ll be fine.

We can do some things this off-season if we’d like and really shape this team into the image that Kellen Moore envisions.

 

[St. Geezy]

Looks like there was a void year component to it, which is why we ended up needing McCoy to sign off on it rather than just processing it at-will as a normal restructure.

 

[St. Geezy]

It's crazy to me that there are people out there that actually think NFL teams operate with no foresight whatsoever and wouldn't see this problem coming years in advance and fix it if it ever came to it.

As if the Saints right now and each year are shocked when they see right before the league year that they're negative on the cap and are now scrambling trying to figure out what to do.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

This is good. No one can complain about tying ourselves to one of the best Centers in the NFL while freeing up cap room. I'm more interested in Davis and Jordan's cap numbers. They seem to be falling off a cliff in terms of production. And Carr, because I simply want to move on to a long term franchise QB, whoever that may be, without being tied to Carr for the next 4 years. I'm already a bit disappointed that we're going with him for 2025 without an heir apparent. I doubt that changes on draft day this year, so I'm kinda already looking to next years lol.

 

[St. Geezy]

This is good. No one can complain about tying ourselves to one of the best Centers in the NFL while freeing up cap room. I'm more interested in Davis and Jordan's cap numbers. They seem to be falling off a cliff in terms of production.

Agree on Cam Jordan, but Demario Davis literally just had a career-year in tackles.

He isn't the same player for sure, and you may see him chasing unsuccessfully in coverage slightly more than we're used to, but to say his production has fallen off is a bit false. The guy is still balling and is just a year removed from being an All-Pro.

You could do a whole lot worse than 36 year old Demario Davis as your starting MLB.



Cam, is a different story, and it sounds like he's amendable to a pay cut. He has a goal of playing his entire career with one team. It's something extremely important to him personally, as an ode to his father and his career. He will do whatever it takes to remain a Saint.

 

[No2DC]

It's crazy to me that there are people out there that actually think NFL teams operate with no foresight whatsoever and wouldn't see this problem coming years in advance and fix it if it ever came to it.

As if the Saints right now and each year are shocked when they see right before the league year that they're negative on the cap and are now scrambling trying to figure out what to do.

People don't agree with the philosophy when you're not a contender. We all know that Mick does this, but stretching the limits as a non-contender is shortsighted. Also, the restructuring concept is akin to using one credit card to pay off another because you still owe the player money.
I know this because we've discussed Mick's philosophy in several threads. If Drew was behind center and we were a legit title contender, this would not be a discussion, but we need to reset/rebuild strategically, and from the outside, that does not seem like what's occurring.
For record, this is not about McCoy. Prior to Ram's injury, they looked like great picks.

 

[St. Geezy]

People don't agree with the philosophy when you're not a contender. We all know that Mick does this, but stretching the limits as a non-contender is shortsighted. Also, the restructuring concept is akin to using one credit card to pay off another because you still owe the player money.
I know this because we've discussed Mick's philosophy in several threads. If Drew was behind center and we were a legit title contender, this would not be a discussion, but we need to reset/rebuild strategically, and from the outside, that does not seem like what's occurring.
For record, this is not about McCoy. Prior to Ram's injury, they looked like great picks.

This has nothing to do with my post TBH. I am just pointing out that regardless of if you believe in the philosophy or not, the team is organized enough to not put themselves in an unforeseen predicament where all of a sudden it is not possible to get under the cap.

 

[No2DC]

This is good. No one can complain about tying ourselves to one of the best Centers in the NFL while freeing up cap room. I'm more interested in Davis and Jordan's cap numbers. They seem to be falling off a cliff in terms of production. And Carr, because I simply want to move on to a long term franchise QB, whoever that may be, without being tied to Carr for the next 4 years. I'm already a bit disappointed that we're going with him for 2025 without an heir apparent. I doubt that changes on draft day this year, so I'm kinda already looking to next years lol.

We hang on to our favorite players at least a year too long. Cam will be a HOF guy and an all-time Saints great, and Demario may get into ring of honor one day. However, it's time to make some business decisions on those guys.

 

[No2DC]

This has nothing to do with my post TBH. I am just pointing out that regardless of if you believe in the philosophy or not, the team is organized enough to not put themselves in an unforeseen predicament where all of a sudden it is not possible to get under the cap.

I was noting that I don't think most posters think Mick doesn't have a plan because we do the same thing every year. In my view, the primary criticism is the philosophy, not the ability to get under the cap. I'm sure he or Khari has listed players for potential restructuring every year.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

Agree on Cam Jordan, but Demario Davis literally just had a career-year in tackles.

He isn't the same player for sure, and you may see him chasing unsuccessfully in coverage slightly more than we're used to, but to say his production has fallen off is a bit false. The guy is still balling and is just a year removed from being an All-Pro.

You could do a whole lot worse than 36 year old Demario Davis as your starting MLB.



Cam, is a different story, and it sounds like he's amendable to a pay cut. He has a goal of playing his entire career with one team. It's something extremely important to him personally, as an ode to his father and his career. He will do whatever it takes to remain a Saint.

I'm suspect of Davis. I saw him blow several coverages this past season. And also for the first time ever, I saw him miss tackles. I was really saddened by that. Not because of the play or the yardage, but because the guy quite literally never missed tackles that I could recall and it seemed like he was slowing up which is something I'm not ready for. Davis is my favorite linebacker the Saints have ever had (and one of my favorite saints ever) since I started watching them every week (until DA) since 2000.

 

[St.Dan]

Good move. He's the apparent anchor of the o-line, a unit we'll hopefully see upgraded in FA and the draft.

How would we rank him among some of the better centers in team history -- Hill, Hilgenberg, Goodwin, Unger, others?

 

[St. Geezy]

I was noting that I don't think most posters think Mick doesn't have a plan because we do the same thing every year. In my view, the primary criticism is the philosophy, not the ability to get under the cap. I'm sure he or Khari has listed players for potential restructuring every year.

Ah ok. Yeah when I made that post I was moreso speaking about outsiders, fans of other teams that always comment on posts like that about our situation.