Update Saints to interview Mike McCarthy in person during this week, Jan. 26-Feb. 1 [Underhill: McCarthy would have to be the current favorite] (67 Viewers)

[St. Widge]

I largely agree, Brady presents risks that McCarthy doesn't.....but I also think the combination of his youth (he would likely be here a while if successful) and his offensive prowess makes him at least a strong consideration.....

But I also know I don't trust Loomis to make the right decision....hopefully the group decision is a true group decision....

Impossible to know who they are favoring at this point but my favorites are Brady and then McCarthy.....

One thing on the lack of trust in Loomis front is that I think Loomis will give McCarthy more control than any young coach since McCarthy has so much experience. Loomis is going to have more trust that McCarthy knows what he is doing.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

My hope is that McCarthy can right the ship and rebuild the roster with young talent before he decides to retire. Then we can be in a position to hire one of the hot young coaches and give them a real chance to succeed. I'm just not sure this is the idea situation for a young coach with no experience running or building a team.

Still, I'd probably be more excited by a Brady, Moore, or even Kafka hire, but I also see a lot of reasons why McCarthy would make sense for this team in this situation. Sean managed to build a team as a young coach, but he also got really lucky to get Brees and Reggie Bush in his first year. Our next coach isn't going to have that head start.

Perhaps he keeps Kubiak and then Kubiak becomes a succession plan

 

[Taker597]

Perhaps he keeps Kubiak and then Kubiak becomes a succession plan

Kibiack leaving before he gets a chance to keep him more than likely

 

[sfidc3]

One thing on the lack of trust in Loomis front is that I think Loomis will give McCarthy more control than any young coach since McCarthy has so much experience. Loomis is going to have more trust that McCarthy knows what he is doing.

I agree that this is likely....

 

[St. Widge]

Perhaps he keeps Kubiak and then Kubiak becomes a succession plan

I'm not as high on Kubiak as you are, but maybe so. But for that to happen McCarthy would have to significantly change his offensive scheme from a traditional West Coast system to the Shanahan/Kubiak system. Not sure he would want to do that.

 

[Rouxble]

I'm not as high on Kubiak as you are, but maybe so. But for that to happen McCarthy would have to significantly change his offensive scheme from a traditional West Coast system to the Shanahan/Kubiak system. Not sure he would want to do that.

Wouldn’t be the first time he adopted the existing offensive structure:

 

[St. Widge]

Wouldn’t be the first time he adopted the existing offensive structure:

Interesting. I didn't know he did that. But after it ended with Moore getting let go in Dallas, I wonder if he would want to try it again? I also wonder if what Moore was doing was as different from what McCarthy normally does as the system Kubiak runs.

 

[St. Geezy]

Interesting. I didn't know he did that. But after it ended with Moore getting let go in Dallas, I wonder if he would want to try it again?

Exactly what I’m wondering. If that concept failed and he eventually decided to revert, why would he go to it again.

 

[SuperSaint]

That's because he is a retread. But that doesn't mean he can't be successful. I'd be more concerned if he had failed in his prior two jobs, but he didn't. He got pushed out in GB by Rodgers and he essentially left Dallas because of Jerry. And he had a 12-5 record 3 of the last 4 years. Even last year he had 7 wins when they had a ton of injuries.

This isn't like hiring DA who had a really bad losing record with the Raiders.

I could be sold on it, but i'll have to see it.

 

[Rouxble]

Interesting. I didn't know he did that. But after it ended with Moore getting let go in Dallas, I wonder if he would want to try it again?

Maybe he would want more say on the play calling, but I think he would see value in maintaining the same play call structure and base offense ideas rather than install a third playbook in three years for Carr. One guy memorizing new terms versus the whole offense starting from scratch.

Also keep in mind he kept Moore’s system as the foundation when he took over play calling in Dallas.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Going to be interesting to see who he wants as a DC. I think he's always had DCs that were 4-3 guys, but he did run a 4-3 hybrid in Dallas. But that could have just been to get Parsons as many pass rushing snaps as possible while not having him try to play the run as much as a traditional 4-3 DE.

Mike Pettine was a disciple of Rex Ryan, and ran a 3-4. He has a preference for aggressive defenses. Even when he's run a 4-3 it's been w/ under principles. Either way, it will be important for him.

He needs an aggressive QB as well I think he and Rattler would be ideal.

As far as offensive schemes, when he took his sabbatical a few years back before getting the Cowboys job, he put effort into learning new schemes new offenses, so he's open to implementing diffrent schemes and isn't stuck to how he does something.

I wonder would he bring in Rex Ryan lol?

 

[longtime lurker]

You need a young, hungry guy imo. McCarthy is just hungry haha

 

[sleepingbunch]

I don't think McCarthy is a fit because we have an aging team that didn't draft terribly well over the last 5 seasons. I'm in the camp of starting Rattler, embracing either a potential tank or a surprising season from a young talent, and rebuilding. McCarthy is not the guy for that IMO.

We have a bottom 15 NFL roster where many of the team's best players are around or over 30. Start fresh and take risks. I would want McCarthy if my team had solid talent but needed that extra push.

Why not someone young, talented, and hungry for the opportunity?

 

[44slayer]

I'm just not sure this is the idea situation for a young coach with no experience running or building a team.

If we end up with McCarthy, we could have done much worse. But the above, it just doesnt hold water.

Detroit went full rebuild. They went 3-13 in Dan Campbells first year. 9-7 in his 2nd year. 12-5. Then 15-2. He went +6, +3, +3 in wins after his first season.

He had an interim job prior, but Detroit was his first permanent HC gig.

This is a perfect opportinity for a young coach to build himself and a franchise. Its going to take energy, and drive. You can make a case both ways. A young, unproven guy will be hungry to create something. Does McCarthy have the energy to lead a rebuild at 61?

Sean Payton walked through the door in his first job as a HC, with a franchise and a city totally decimated, coming off a 3-13 season. What he faced as a rookie HC was far less ideal that what the next HC of this franchise will face.

I 1000% disagree that we have to have an old man lead this team. We need energy, ideas and hunger. Give me the younger OC over McCarthy. Let him build a name for himself along with rebuilding this franchise.

And we need to be patient with him in 2025. Its a long game. A 3-14, 4-13 2025 might be a necessity to get back to competing for Lombardis.

 

[sleepingbunch]

This is a perfect opportinity for a young coach to build himself and a franchise. Its going to take energy, and drive. You can make a case both ways. A young, unproven guy will be hungry to create something. Does McCarthy have the energy to lead a rebuild at 61?

Sean Payton walked through the door in his first job as a HC, with a franchise and a city totally decimated, coming off a 3-13 season. What he faced as a rookie HC was far less ideal that what the next HC of this franchise will face.

I 1000% disagree that we have to have an old man lead this team. We need energy, ideas and hunger. Give me the younger OC over McCarthy. Let him build a name for himself along with rebuilding this franchise.

And we need to be patient with him in 2025. Its a long game. A 3-14, 4-13 2025 might be a necessity to get back to competing for Lombardis.

Yes to this 100%. McCarthy is right for somebody but he's not right for us IMO..

I'll also add that fans typically have a bias that their team has more talent than others because we know what our own players can do when healthy. I think talent wise we are likely bottom-10 in the NFL. The only thing that kept the team hanging on around 8-9, 9-8 was playing in an awful division and getting a few miracle Kamara and Taysom games each of those seasons