Should Rattler be our starter in 2025? (merged) (3 Viewers)

[St. Widge]

When free agency opens, so this offseason is march 12th at 4pm.

Thanks. I thought the new league year started on June 1 for some reason. But at least we have some time to name a coach before we have to make roster decisions. But if it's a guy that ends up in the Super Bowl, the move needs to be made on the Monday after the game.

 

[jasonsw]

. Consider it our Dollar General version of Aaron Rodgers/Jordan Love.

More like Only 99c store version

 

[St. Widge]

No, Carr when Healthy was one of the top qbs this year and that is with passing to bad group of WRs and TE.

Rattler got shutout by GB and did mediocre against the Raiders. Rattler ceiling is that of being a capable backup.

At this point, I think Rattler's floor is capable backup.

 

[Bill]

I don't care if you love Rattler or hate him... there is NO quarterback in the draft or free agency who could have excelled in the offense we currently have. Even when Rattler had a chance to play with more of the starters available, he was still running for his life and had nothing that resembled a real pocket. I have no clue what kind of QB he might be in the future, but I am willing to allow our new head coach to evaluate him while building a new offense to compliment his skill set. If our new head coach doesn't see the qualities that he needs to run his offense, he can send him packing without me shedding a tear. Frankly I still believe that coaches judge a potential QB as much for his time in practice than on his time on the field. A lot of negative things can happen during a real game that has nothing to do with the quality of the quarterback. I'm not going to try and make the call for either Haener or Rattler.

 

[football]

Does he give you a chance to win? What has his career proven? This team should be rebuilding anyway. We are too old and devoid of talent due to abysmal salary cap management by a GM who has zero accountability.

Tell me right now do any reasonable option going forward gives us the best chance. None of the backup has given us any hope. Rattler fans needs to be patient but also realistic. Rebuilding does not need to be the worst team in the league.

 

[SaintStephen1]

Would anybody be interested in trading our first rounder to Vikings for JJ McCarthy to sit and learn behind Carr for a year then take the reins?

 

[Icon]

No, Carr when Healthy was one of the top qbs this year and that is with passing to bad group of WRs and TE.

Rattler got shutout by GB and did mediocre against the Raiders. Rattler ceiling is that of being a capable backup.

To be clear, Rattler hasn't been put in the best situation either, obviously.......so I personally will hold off on speculation of his ceiling. Plus he's a rookie.....and not every rookie immediately plays like Jayden Daniels.

Carr is obviously just more NFL ready. I do wish he'd quit throwing bombs late in games when only needing like 5 or 6 yards to get a first down, though.

 

[Judge_Smails]

Would anybody be interested in trading our first rounder to Vikings for JJ McCarthy to sit and learn behind Carr for a year then take the reins?

I would not be willing to do so. He was maybe a stretch where drafted and is coming off a knee injury/surgery.

He’s a depreciated asset until proven otherwise.

I’d rather trade back for extra picks and see if Detroit would trade Hendon Hooker for a 4th if your goal is to grab a previously injured young QB with potential, but no real NFL experience.

 

[SaintStephen1]

I would not be willing to do so. He was maybe a stretch where drafted and is coming off a knee injury/surgery.

He’s a depreciated asset until proven otherwise.

I’d rather trade back for extra picks and see if Detroit would trade Hendon Hooker for a 4th if your goal is to grab a previously injured young QB with potential, but no real NFL experience.

Very well thought out. I would trade back too numerous times. Not thinking Hooker a franchise QB.

 

[44slayer]

Consider it our Dollar General version of Aaron Rodgers/Jordan Love.

Yeah, no. I dont think QBs really work on that Target vs Dollar General model.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

No.

Rattler so far looks like nothing more then a career backup. He's slow to recognize the defense, he's slow in anticipating receivers becoming open and he's oblivious to disguises. I can't recall a time when these issues were fixed in a QB at the NFL level to become a quality QB1. Otherwise QB's like Nick Foles and Winston would be hall of famers.

 

[St. Widge]

No.

Rattler so far looks like nothing more then a career backup. He's slow to recognize the defense, he's slow in anticipating receivers becoming open and he's oblivious to disguises. I can't recall a time when these issues were fixed in a QB at the NFL level to become a quality QB1. Otherwise QB's like Nick Foles and Winston would be hall of famers.

Did you not see Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield play as rookies or for that matter most other good QBs? Rattler may or may not develop into a good QB but what you just described is playing like a rookie QB. Lots of guys have had those issues and turned out to be good to great QBs.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

Did you not see Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield play as rookies or for that matter most other good QBs? Rattler may or may not develop into a good QB but what you just described is playing like a rookie QB. Lots of guys have had those issues and turned out to be good to great QBs.

Sam Darnold is playing for Kevin O'Connell and still hasn't overcome those issues either. The strategy of Kevin O'Connell is schemed in a way that the QB doesn't have to. Its why Kirk Cousins looked great there and no longer does the moment he left. Rattler would look 10x better if he were there as well.

Mayfield I'm not sure of. You may be right there. I don't watch the Bucs much at all. But I do notice in the few games I watch, Mayfield pulls down the ball and starts running the moment he doesn't like the defensive look post-snap. Im not sure what triggers that. But it could just be his answer. Which would still make you correct.

 

[Da freak]

for the one hundred millionth time, because of the salary cap, we can NOT move on from Carr this season.

Let's stop already.

I stopped trying to reason with people. Both here and in real life.