So How Attractive is the Saints HC Job? (38 Viewers)

[texasjefe]

The money, status, and opportunity are what make a head coaching job attractive.

With the Saints, a new coach has to be comfortable with the next 2-3+ years of cap/roster deprivation, the current QB room with a guy who could be developed along with DA's vet retread, and the roster filled with starters in major injury rehab.

If they get McCarthy, there will be little to no honeymoon period. It will validate the belief of many and Mickey that the Saints are better than their record and the cap is not a major obstacle. McCarthy will be expected to win 9-10 games in Year 1, because he is the great Mike McCarthy, free from Jerry's shackles.

If they get a first-time coach, the honeymoon period will be much longer. There will be patience as long as the coach doesn't herpa derpa.

Dazzle us with talent eval and selections. Develop the QB and the QB room. Play sound football, even with a roster in development or an injured roster.

Personality and culture fit are so important in our unique city and rabid fanbase. DA was a terrible communicator. The new coach better be personable and explanatory.

 

[jesusfish]

Right now, we can't even get the 2nd tier candidates to visit. We'll see if it's really weather related or not if they sign with other teams while they are supposedly going to schedule an interview with us at an undetermined later date.

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

I think it is very attractive. You hire a young, offensive minded coach and you tell him next year is not the big deal, it's the next two years (26-27), that are important. You will have cap flexibility and be able to draft and go with a young QB you draft. You have got to cut Carr as a post 6-1 designation and really save on the cap next year and the next. I think that is a foregone conclusion. You can add real talent over the next two years and turn the page on the past 3 year debacle.

 

[JackDiesel]

Between our cap mess and Loomis' patience I think there is a built in safety factor of knowing you'll have the job for at least 3 years unless you absolutely face plant since it'll take time to turn things around.

Our front office "committee" could be seen as a hindrance for an experienced head coach but for an inexperienced head coach it could be an asset. It also depends on how they approach it, if their job is to give the chosen head coach the best tools so that the coach can make the decision then that's a plus. If they're all trying to have a say then that turns into a massive cluster.

Owner is a big plus especially compared to the other meddling owners out there. Couldn't imagine having to deal with the Jets owner and his Madden ratings.

 

[Super]

Right now, we can't even get the 2nd tier candidates to visit. We'll see if it's really weather related or not if they sign with other teams while they are supposedly going to schedule an interview with us at an undetermined later date.

Gee Mike McCarthy Brady Kellen Moore, are none of those guys top tier? Sure sound top-tier to me

 

[jesusfish]

Gee Mike McCarthy Brady Kellen Moore, are none of those guys top tier? Sure sound top-tier to me

Tier 2 guys, imho. And zero of them have visited yet (no interview for McCarthy and virtual for Moore and Brady as regulated by league rules). If they fly in, you can pop your champagne, I guess.

 

[No2DC]

Between our cap mess and Loomis' patience I think there is a built in safety factor of knowing you'll have the job for at least 3 years unless you absolutely face plant since it'll take time to turn things around.

Our front office "committee" could be seen as a hindrance for an experienced head coach but for an inexperienced head coach it could be an asset. It also depends on how they approach it, if their job is to give the chosen head coach the best tools so that the coach can make the decision then that's a plus. If they're all trying to have a say then that turns into a massive cluster.

Owner is a big plus especially compared to the other meddling owners out there. Couldn't imagine having to deal with the Jets owner and his Madden ratings.

Saleh got 3 years, right?

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

Talent is not the major factor. Coaching that holds players accountable is more important than talent. Injuries were a problem last year in a major way, but something else happened with the coaching staff that has not yet emerged. These two issues need to be addressed and a good head coach can fix both.

I'm sorry but talent is a major factor. You need playmakers on both sides in the NFL and don't have many/if any.

Taysom is 34 coming off a serious potential career ending if not altering injury.
Olave is our only receiver and he's coming off two concussions. He's one hit away from being out of the league.
AK is our best playmaker but he's a 30 year old RB.
Demario is old and well past his prime.
Cam is likely going to retire/ should retire.

AND our cap situation is the worse in the league.

 

[SaintStephen1]

One other factor is the city is not attractive to raise kids in so an older guy like McCarthy with grown kids won’t mind coaching here. So think older 2nd tier guy who is not in great demand.

 

[nakadish]

Tier 2 guys, imho. And zero of them have visited yet (no interview for McCarthy and virtual for Moore and Brady as regulated by league rules). If they fly in, you can pop your champagne, I guess.

You must be a blast at parties.

 

[RJ in Lafayette]

Can I push back on whether the city is sufficiently attractive?

Every NFL city has attractive areas in its metropolitan region in which to live and raise a family. Given the money an NFL coach is paid, he can live anywhere in the New Orleans metropolitan area he wants. The team's training facilities are in Metairie. Outside Orleans Parish, Old Metairie is delightful, and Payton lived north of the lake with his first wife and children. Admittedly, it does seem that Payton's two wives preferred living elsewhere, and Mike Ditka certainly did not care for New Orleans. But again given what NFL head coaches are being paid, I can't imagine somewhere not taking the Saints job because he does not want to live in the New Orleans metropolitan area.

 

[Randy Jones]

I'm sorry but talent is a major factor. You need playmakers on both sides in the NFL and don't have many/if any.

Taysom is 34 coming off a serious potential career ending if not altering injury.
Olave is our only receiver and he's coming off two concussions. He's one hit away from being out of the league.
AK is our best playmaker but he's a 30 year old RB.
Demario is old and well past his prime.
Cam is likely going to retire/ should retire.

AND our cap situation is the worse in the league.

If coaching is secondary to acquiring talent, then why do some franchises seem to perennially draft in the top ten and never improve. Whereas teams that have good coaches and draft at the back end of the draft in each round remain successful every year.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

If coaching is secondary to acquiring talent, then why do some franchises seem to perennially draft in the top ten and never improve. Whereas teams that have good coaches and draft at the back end of the draft in each round remain successful every year.

What do you mean? The teams that are picking early have massive gaps in talent. The teams that are picking late don't. They also generally have these things called franchise QBs.

Drafting high is how *most* teams flip their franchise around ex: Redskins, Lions, Texans, hell even the Chiefs needed the 10th overall to land Mahomes.