Soooo when is it NOT Fire Season??? Franklin fire in Malibu CA (18 Viewers)

Yeah, the big ones happen in the forests.

They know the Pallisades Fire began as a shrub fire and they know the approximate location. It might actually already be known exactly how it started but that all comes in the after-investigation and review, report, etc.
The point of origin of a wildfire can reliably be located by waiting for the fire to die down and cool off, then a fire investigator will reverse track the fire to the exact location where it started.

It's kind of like tracking the path of a deer's footprints to where it came from, except that a rain storm will not wash away the tracks. Fire tracks will last through storms and last for months.

There is also the factor that successful fires start small, and starts immediately burn up hill, or in the direction of wind, if there is wind, to find more fuel to burn. As it moves it grows larger and hotter, wider. The fire will move away from its source leaving what started it just slightly singed, not completely burned away.

Suppose a bottle rocket lands in some tall grass and starts a fire. Where the bottle rocket landed will be the least burned area in a much larger burn area. As the investigator walks toward the point of origin the path becomes more well defined and the width of the burned area will grow narrower until it reaches the point where the fire started, at which point the trail ends with a palm sized patch of blackened grass, with the visible remains of that bottle rocket marking the spot. The fire investigator can then pick up the blackened, but not completely burned bottle rocket, and take it to the fire lab.

In the lab they can test it for DNA, and perhaps a portion of a fingerprint. In a case where a cigarette butt started a fire there will be DNA in the unburned filter. A smoker has saliva, which contains DNA, and when they stick the cigarette in their mouth it leaves a lot of DNA for the fire lab to find and sequence.

Most arsonnest are caught by the time they start three fires. Of all the types of crime, arson is the easiest to track to the source to collect evidence, and then find the perpetrator and arrest them.
 
That's very cool. I wonder, though, would the fires have gotten hot enough to melt the medals? Wouldn't they still be there in the rubble? Of course, there would be the trouble of finding them in the ashes and debris, if someone was allowed to even go into there.
 
Just a side comment, I always thought PCH was only the road that's up above. Didn't know it was the road that went by the Malibu beach houses. It's been 40 years since I was anywhere near that area.
I just figured out that the road in my head I thought was PCH is Palos Verdes Drive. I was trying to figure out if Wayfarer's Chapel was anywhere near the fires and found out it's currently being moved and restored to protect it from land movement. Anyway, I have no idea where Rancho Palos Verde is in relation to the fire location.
 
I just figured out that the road in my head I thought was PCH is Palos Verdes Drive. I was trying to figure out if Wayfarer's Chapel was anywhere near the fires and found out it's currently being moved and restored to protect it from land movement. Anyway, I have no idea where Rancho Palos Verde is in relation to the fire location.
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I just figured out that the road in my head I thought was PCH is Palos Verdes Drive. I was trying to figure out if Wayfarer's Chapel was anywhere near the fires and found out it's currently being moved and restored to protect it from land movement. Anyway, I have no idea where Rancho Palos Verde is in relation to the fire location.

Palos Vedres is down below the LA beaches, below LAX - quite a ways from the Pallisades area. I have a colleague that grew up there - I bet RPV in the 80s was a cool place to grow up.
 
Just saw the Governor "suspended" parts the the California environmental regulations to aid rebuilding efforts. Glad to see some efforts are being undertaken to help rebuilding. However, it is California and I'm sure that the environmentalists are gonna push back, especially when it comes to the coastal areas. It will be interesting to see if there are changes to building density in many of these impacted areas?
 
Just saw the Governor "suspended" parts the the California environmental regulations to aid rebuilding efforts. Glad to see some efforts are being undertaken to help rebuilding. However, it is California and I'm sure that the environmentalists are gonna push back, especially when it comes to the coastal areas. It will be interesting to see if there are changes to building density in many of these impacted areas?

I think the two primarily impacted areas are dominated by single-family dwellings - some of which are quite large.

What would be the building density issue?
 

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