Spoiler Spoiler Thread: Avengers Infinity War (3 Viewers)

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Saw it again tonight.

Wild, crazy, unhinged speculation time.

We're obviously getting some resurrections, and I think we'll get some permanent sacrifices to make it happen. Without getting too far into spoilers or real-world stuff, there are actors who are getting out, and actors who are going to carry the MCU forward. My speculation, based on my viewing tonight, is that Gamora is going to have a big part in what happens next. She's in the Soul stone - the soul for a soul - so she may have some influence over it. After Thanos' snap - but before the rapture - Thanos visited Gamora in what I assume to be the inside of the stone. It was all orangish-red.

I think the snap didn't kill half the universe. I think they may all be somewhere else because of Gamora's influence. They may be in a pocket dimension somewhere in the Quantum Realm. I think the people that died before the snap, with the possible exception of Vision, are probably gone for good. But everyone who bought the farm during the ending will be brought back. Ant Man will play a big part in it. Cap and Stark will make amends. Lots of people will die for real.

Or not. Either way, I loved it. The scale of the achievement that this movie was cannot be overstated.
 
bonnjer said:
I wonder how far ahead they had all of this mapped out? For example, the Red Skull bit. When he disappeared at the end of the first Captain America, did they already know what they were going to do with him? If so, that is mighty impressive.
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When he appeared, I did a literal fist pump in the theater. Wasn't expecting him at all. As far as the plan, I don't think they knew THAT specifically, that he'd be guarding the Soul Stone 10 years later, but they knew (as most of us suspected) that he wasn't dead and could be used in the future, just removed from the board temporarily. Having him basically act as a stand-in for Death was just a stroke of genius by the writers.
 
loved it, one of the best movies I've seen in my life

but can someone help me rationalize why Dr Strange didn't trap Thanos in a time loop like he did with Dormammu
 
Bronson said:
loved it, one of the best movies I've seen in my life

but can someone help me rationalize why Dr Strange didn't trap Thanos in a time loop like he did with Dormammu
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The reason the time loop worked with Dormammu was because he had no idea what time was. That he was freaked out by it, that it was the first thing he couldn't control, was what made him panic and want to deal to get out of it. Thanos had 4 Infinity Stones...even if he was stuck in a time loop, he'd find a way to use them (namely the Reality Stone) to get out of it.
 
Two major deaths in the first few minutes and the Hulk being absolutely destroyed by Thanos set the tone for the movie. This was a different type of villain.

I actually felt pain for Thanos when he sacrificed Gamora. He loved her in some way, otherwise he doesn't get the Soul Stone. Even during all of his interactions with her, you could tell he thought of her as more than the little girl he kept.

I enjoyed the bits of humor of this movie as well. Drax and the,"why is Gamora," was gold and the part where Thor introduced Groot to Cap was hysterical.

"This is my friend, Tree."

After impaling the enemies, "I am Groot," followed by, "I am Steve Rogers."

There was a round of applause when Cap arrived and when Thor did as well. I thought for sure that the Hulk was going to come out of the Hulkbuster, instead it was Thor coming in.

This is rambling, I know.

Bucky and Rocket's interaction was great.

I liked that Hulk wouldn't come out, he was scared in my opinion.

The ending, I'll admit, I cried. Spider-Man was heartbreaking same with Groot. I also thought having Rocket the sole survivor of the Guardians was great, especially after his talk with Thor about losing everything.

One thing in this jumbling rambling bit I want to say is that I know Quill is getting a ton of grief, but I fully knew it was coming when he found out about Gamora. This was and is the nature of his character. It reminded me of how he reacted when he found out Ego killed his mom. Not shocked by what he did.

And Dr. Strange, I hear a lot of folks stating it was a massive change of heart that he gave up the stone, but I took it as this was something he saw in that one scenario that they won.

I also think this was one of the best viewing experiences I have ever had in a theater. Not one time did a phone come out. There was clapping, audible gasps at a few points. When T'Challa died, I heard multiple people blurt out, "no!" This was something that people had waited a long time for and it showed in that theater. Amazing crowd.

I could do this all night , I truly loved this movie that much. My only complaint is that when the movie was starting, we had a active desktop recovery pop up on screen delaying us for a few minutes. Ha.
 
Almost wish they would just leave it as is. It's perfect. Just let Thanos chill out and become a farmer.

I loved 97% of this movie. Finally a villain with some conviction and actual belief what he is doing is the right thing. That always makes for the best antagonist IMO.

The few things I didn't like:
1. Vision nerfed
2. Unlike others, I hated Hulk not coming out. Scared Hulk is not something I ever want to see. Especially off the heels of Ragnarok where Hulk wanted to stay out for good. Speaking of Ragnarok, a main theme of that movie was that Thor was not the "God of hammers" but he had the power inside of him. Now he needed a new weapon that made him OP? And where was Valkyrie and Korg? Seemed to be a disconnect from that movie to this one. And how did Thor heal so quickly?
3. Quill seemed extra *****ey.

Now that that's all out the way, I think I am still out of breath from the pace of the movie. (and that Red Skull cameo!!!) No let up at all.

I liked it so much that I want this to be the new universe moving forward. I don't want to see it undone. But we know there are more Spider-Man (Miles Morales maybe?) and Black Panther movies to make.

Ward, I don't think it was decided by people who have experienced loss. Spidey lost Uncle Ben. Drax lost his wife (and has mastered the art of standing so still that you can't see him).
But I do think it was decided by something, not just random chance. Haven't put it together yet.

Last thing, it seemed at the end that the Gauntlet was fried, but are the stones used up? He obviously used a stone to transport away. And we assume that was the Soul Stone where he saw young Gamora.
 
brockmeaux said:
Saw it again tonight.

Wild, crazy, unhinged speculation time.

We're obviously getting some resurrections, and I think we'll get some permanent sacrifices to make it happen. Without getting too far into spoilers or real-world stuff, there are actors who are getting out, and actors who are going to carry the MCU forward. My speculation, based on my viewing tonight, is that Gamora is going to have a big part in what happens next. She's in the Soul stone - the soul for a soul - so she may have some influence over it. After Thanos' snap - but before the rapture - Thanos visited Gamora in what I assume to be the inside of the stone. It was all orangish-red.

I think the snap didn't kill half the universe. I think they may all be somewhere else because of Gamora's influence. They may be in a pocket dimension somewhere in the Quantum Realm. I think the people that died before the snap, with the possible exception of Vision, are probably gone for good. But everyone who bought the farm during the ending will be brought back. Ant Man will play a big part in it. Cap and Stark will make amends. Lots of people will die for real.

Or not. Either way, I loved it. The scale of the achievement that this movie was cannot be overstated.
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Let me add on to the speculation. I think Vision is still alive in the mind stone as well. I think just like parts of all that is Vision was in him, I think that in his final moments he might have found a way to put himself into mind stone. Since it's unlikely Warlock plays the hero role in Avengers 4 like in the comic (which ****** me off really to introduce a character but move so far away for his main being), I can see Vision playing that role. He's already picked up Mjolnir. I'm pretty certain her can wield the power of the gauntlet.
 
Grandadmiral said:
Let me add on to the speculation. I think Vision is still alive in the mind stone as well. I think just like parts of all that is Vision was in him, I think that in his final moments he might have found a way to put himself into mind stone. Since it's unlikely Warlock plays the hero role in Avengers 4 like in the comic (which ****** me off really to introduce a character but move so far away for his main being), I can see Vision playing that role. He's already picked up Mjolnir. I'm pretty certain her can wield the power of the gauntlet.
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I'd buy that for a dollar.
 
I loved the fact that Hulk was too scared to come out, it added weight to just how powerful Thanos was. Thanos was probably the best comic movie villain I've ever seen, including Ledger's Joker (still struggling with that). This was the first CG villain that I actually felt the emotion he was showing on his face. Ebony Maw I also thought was a great bad guy. Some of the Starlord humor didn't really hit for me, but I loved the interactions between Thor and Rocket (sweet rabbit) and Groot growing up a bit more and using his arm to make Stormbringer's handle and shooting an arm through half a dozen enemies. I'll see it for the third time probably Tuesday, there's so much to digest. And how awesome was Nick Fury? Mother Fu.... as he dissolves.
 
We just got home. With all of the above stated, and seeing the post credit scene, I would think it would be difficult to not reach into the AOS universe somehow. Anyone else? I mean, I'm gonna be ****** if I tune in Friday and half the cast is gone.

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Loved it.

I understand Dr Strange's apparent flip-flop on giving up the time stone.The decision to surrender the stone was the only way to start the one scenario where they are victorious. He even tells Stark that they are on the right path, "We're in the endgame now".

Coming May 2019
Avengers: The Leftovers

After the shock wore off from the ending, I began to play out a number of possibilities for next year's not sequel and I can't shake this feeling that Thanos will be responsible for the inevitable resurrections. I think he will continue to be haunted by Gammora and he will either be coerced into setting things right or he will do it on his own free will. I think that it what Strange saw in one of his 14M+ scenarios.
 
ktulu909 said:
We just got home. With all of the above stated, and seeing the post credit scene, I would think it would be difficult to not reach into the AOS universe somehow. Anyone else? I mean, I'm gonna be ****** if I tune in Friday and half the cast is gone.

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At this point, I'd buy that AOS is in a separate timeline. They made a passing reference to something happening in New York last Friday, but I don't expect the cast to start getting melted.
 
When I die and look back at my life I will see my marriage, the birth of my 2 sons, and this movie.


Just wow.
 

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