Sportskeeda’s Tony Pauline: “I’m told Saints are considering releasing Tyrann Mathieu” [Tyrann: “Slow news day....I am New Orleans!”] (55 Viewers)

[SweetT]

LSU fans refuse to see the truth, it's funny. Guy plays with absolutely zero effort.

#rentfree

 

[Hank]

Considering a release? I’m sure they’ve considered releasing many players. However, his cap number is $11.3M and dead money is $12.3M. They will accelerate about $1M if he is released. Doesn’t appear to be worth it. I think he plays it out this year.

Do it and eat the damage--

 

[StudioSaint]

Not all. I'm a LSU fan and Mathieu can go. It doesn't matter what the cap hit is, I'd rather roll with a rookie than have that lack of effort, business decision guy on the roster going forward. Yes, he's good in the community, but giving up on plays isn't a good look when we are trying to change the culture.

I think if the Saints feel certain he will be replaced in the starting line up and that he will react in a way detrimental to team unity, then I think cutting him is the best course of action. Team unity is more important to me than cap savings.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Kind of sounds like an agent trying to gage his player's value after the team asked him to take a pay cut.

I'd hate to see him go because he's a great guy in the community, but we do need to upgrade and get younger at Safety.

Same same, it’s a good draft for safety depth imo as well.

 

[texasjefe]

The only thing I can think of is that this would fall under the realm of a “football decision.”

He’s coasted a bit on film. I could see the new staff not caring much for him.

Yes, you can argue he's not close in performance value for his salary, give or take some nice plays each year, but this...
is...
a...
BUSINESS DECISION.
If it happens.

Keeping Carr in the cap (even with potential restructure) and you gotta pay for it in other ways.

So you chop off Badger, take his cap space, and then ring it up....

Dead money tally goes to $60M.

Dead Money (per OTC)​

Name	Cap Number
Marshon Lattimore	$31,661,837
Michael Thomas	$9,187,177
Jameis Winston	$7,361,000
TOTAL	$48,432,346

I think my numbers are right, but if they are not, we know alot of people here who can correct or amend it.

I'd be in favor of cutting him. Great guy, generational LSU player even to non-LSU fans, but I'll take the benefit of getting younger and paying the dead cap bill sooner than later.

 

[TalleyHo1]

Not all. I'm a LSU fan and Mathieu can go. It doesn't matter what the cap hit is, I'd rather roll with a rookie than have that lack of effort, business decision guy on the roster going forward. Yes, he's good in the community, but giving up on plays isn't a good look when we are trying to change the culture.

LSU fan here and I absolutely agree with you.

 

[RaginSaint93]

 

[Stalwart385]

It would have to be a post June 1st cut if they did. There is no benefit before then. Don't see it happening myself. They are so thin at safety. They'd have to replace him and trying to by then isn't something you can easily plan for. Not saying they won't, I don't know what's going on internally, but it doesn't make much sense cap and player wise.

 

[RaginCajun83]

I wouldn’t shed a tear if they cut him

 

[NatureBoy]

I'm an LSU fan and I like Tyrann, but this comment doesn't land right for me. Was he New Orleans after the Cardinals released him? How about before he signed with KC? It's easy to be New Orleans now. I'm not sure he would get paid well to give a less than full effort elsewhere at this point of his career.

 

[SweetT]

I'm an LSU fan and I like Tyrann, but this comment doesn't land right for me. Was he New Orleans after the Cardinals released him? How about before he signed with KC? It's easy to be New Orleans now. I'm not sure he would get paid well to give a less than full effort elsewhere at this point of his career.

He has always repped New Orleans. It’s where he’s from. He takes great pride in that.

 

[NatureBoy]

He has always repped New Orleans. It’s where he’s from. He takes great pride in that.

I don't doubt that. But when it came to choosing a city to play football in, we weren't it until he was entering the backside of his career, and at a cost that I'm not sure matches his effort and ability. All I'm saying is it's easy (and financially beneficial) to make that claim now.

 

[soggymoss84]

I don't doubt that. But when it came to choosing a city to play football in, we weren't it until he was entering the backside of his career, and at a cost that I'm not sure matches his effort and ability. All I'm saying is it's easy (and financially beneficial) to make that claim now.

He has also said before that the road he was on the best thing for him was to get away from New Orleans for awhile

 

[livefromDC]

And it's not like players have much of a choice early in their career. He went where he was drafted. Then he went to the team willing to pay him. I love Louisiana too, but I don't live there now because my earning potential is greater somewhere else.

 

[livefromDC]

The team will not look like it did last year. We should prepare for that. I've said it multiple times already. We should prepare for changes that aren't based on current opinions about player performance or the last regimes tendencies for playing time. We will likely see average players traded out for average players in what looks like head scratcher moves. The new staff will know what they want and Loomis will try to accommodate. Some of these moves will not be salary cap friendly so it could be possible Mathieu is moved. However...

From the salary cap perspective, it doesn't make sense right now, but it could after the draft. If he's not in the plans, there's no real rush to make this move especially with the salary cap ramifications. Who knows though.

I also know that many threw dirt on Kamara's career after the 2023 season and I spent last off season preaching that Saints shouldn't judge Kamara based on being stuck in Carmichael's horrid offense with no offensive line help. Now, it's Mathieu. And I'm not defending Mathieu's level of effort because you can tell he wasn't fully committed to the strategy. A strategy that put an extraordinary amount of pressure on the secondary. A strategy built by round hole, square peg Dennis Allen who we all agree was a horrible head coach. He didn't do any of the players a favor last year to include the defense. I could definitely see Mathieu's being frustrated with a strategy he no longer had faith in. It's professional but passion has always been a part of his game. Will the new staff take that into consideration? Or do they have an idea of who they want playing that position already? We'll see, but I can see it going either way.