Teddy or Jameis? (1 Viewer)

[SaintKenn]

The only way I can see Teddy back with us is if our staff falls in love with a qb in this year's draft that we can get. You sign Teddy to go this year, allowing our rookie to sit and learn.

 

[shane2477]

I’m not huge on JW but it’s JW and not even close. Teddy, as much as I love him, is a quality backup in the league and that’s all.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

I'd prefer JW, but I'd take Teddy as an "in case of fire, sign QB" and I'd still not take a QB in this draft afterwards. Like I've said, Teddy went into 2 sheetty situations after NO....Carolina is a dumpster fire, and Denver is about to find out that Wilson isn't the solution to their problems either.

If we do sign JW, Teddy, Trubisky (shudder), roll with Hill, or even Book....I'd still not draft a QB because our problem last year was not, and I repeat, was not, the QB position. Don't set a QB up for failure and then blame that QB for failing. Fix the WRs & TEs first!

 

[Chopper Man]

should have made a poll, Teddy doesn't come remotely close to Jameis.

 

[No2DC]

Stop playing games and do the deal. If the Saints are lowballing him then they ain't serious.

 

[los226]

Jameis of course

 

[AL_Bundy]

I'd like to get Teddy on a 2 year deal with one being voidable... and have our 1st 3 rounds go like this...

You got a better chance of buying a winning lottery ticket, than getting Kenny Pickett at 32. SMH

Oh, and Teddy is a great guy, but he's simply a backup caliber QB. Jameis is a starting caliber QB, and he can eat a W. I've never seen Teddy eat a W. Heck, Drew never ate a W. I'd be embarrassed if he had. LOL

 

[BBarnes]

I’m not even a big Winston fan, but good lord. It’s Winston by a landslide if you have to have anything that resembles and offense that can threaten NFL defenses

 

[reason2believe]

Jameis and it's not close.

People have this weird perception of Teddy lately and it's puzzling. He's supposed to be this excellent game manager with a super high floor.. He was wasn't good last year, and he was bad in Carolina. Like if that's your idea of a 'safe' pick, and a QB you can trust.. Heh, I think it's flawed.

Jameis was a far better game manager last year by a wide margin, and his upside is way way better. Hard to believe this is actually a discussion.

I am so glad to see all of these posts pointing this out.

 

[new city champ]

I get that people have strong feelings about QBs, but to say it's not even debatable who the Saints should prefer is crazy.

Some of you guys are acting like Bridgewater is trash. He completed 67% of his attempts last year as a starter for the Broncos for more than 3k yards and 18 TDs against only 7 Ints. I think he'd do even better back with Pete Carmichael in a system geared to his talents as a short-medium thrower who makes good decisions (a la Brees). By contrast, I always got the feeling last year that Jameis was trying to alter his style of play to fit what the Saints wanted in a QB. That's not an issue with Teddy.

Jameis was solid in seven starts, especially his 14-3 TD-Int ratio. But he also only completed 59% of his attempts. More concerning he only managed about 160 passing yards per game on about 22 attempts. Now, that may be on the coaching staff and maybe things would have picked up if he'd played the second half of the season, but we just don't know why the team kept the training wheels on.

I'd be fine bringing Jameis back. As I said in the OP he clearly has more upside than Teddy. But in no way, shape or form is the case for Jameis over Teddy a slam dunk.

 

[Nolan]

I get that people have strong feelings about QBs, but to say it's not even debatable who the Saints should prefer is crazy.

Some of you guys are acting like Bridgewater is trash. He completed 67% of his attempts last year as a starter for the Broncos for more than 3k yards and 18 TDs against only 7 Ints. I think he'd do even better back with Pete Carmichael in a system geared to his talents as a short-medium thrower who makes good decisions (a la Brees). By contrast, I always got the feeling last year that Jameis was trying to alter his style of play to fit what the Saints wanted in a QB. That's not an issue with Teddy.

Jameis was solid in seven starts, especially his 14-3 TD-Int ratio. But he also only completed 59% of his attempts. More concerning he only managed about 160 passing yards per game on about 22 attempts. Now, that may be on the coaching staff and maybe things would have picked up if he'd played the second half of the season, but we just don't know why the team kept the training wheels on.

I'd be fine bringing Jameis back. As I said in the OP he clearly has more upside than Teddy. But in no way, shape or form is the case for Jameis over Teddy a slam dunk.

I personally think it's a slam dunk. The number you're pulling for Jameis passing yards is flawed because he went out very early versus Tampa, his yards/game was 181 going into that and increasing every week.

Teddy, notorious for holding the ball too long, also took 31 sacks last year. He got benched not in one game, but in two separate games for Drew Lock. The fact that Jameis had better numbers with the "training wheels" on says all that you need to know. I don't think Teddy is trash, I like him. He's just a back-up QB in this league, and there's nothing wrong with that because he's a damn good back-up quarterback. But he's a last case scenario starter.

My argument is that Jameis showed last year that he can very much be a game manager, and that's with very little help offensively. But he still has tremendous upside, whereas Teddy has zero.

 

[Domeination]

We never really got to see how good Jameis could become last year b/c our receiving corps was so subpar. Teddy is pretty good, and, overall, there may not appear to be a big difference between Teddy and Jameis, but there are two areas where Jameis separates himself: (1) the deep ball; (2) red zone offense. Teddy is just ok in the red zone; Jameis is elite.

 

[Infoman]

You got a better chance of buying a winning lottery ticket, than getting Kenny Pickett at 32. SMH

Oh, and Teddy is a great guy, but he's simply a backup caliber QB. Jameis is a starting caliber QB, and he can eat a W. I've never seen Teddy eat a W. Heck, Drew never ate a W. I'd be embarrassed if he had. LOL

You echo lemmings gotta get yall stories together every morning before yall post... and review for consistency or something.... I have been told repeatedly by your opinion overlords that there was no QB worth a 1st round pick this year unless, of course, Jameis enters the draft.

This notion that JW is somehow miles better than guys like Teddy, or even TH7... Is super perplexing to me. There is literally no evidence to back that up from a results on the field standpoint. (All of them have been game managing QBs that win games by doing less- and all have shown they can do that - Stats seem pretty irrelevant in that capacity) I'd say any of them are about as likely as the other to win about the same number of games in a Saints uniform in 2022 as any other... because that's what the numbers say.

And none of them are the most sought after guys by any NFL team by any stretch of the imagination. No one has been knocking down their doors... There is no constant flow of "rumors"... No "high drama"... No "whispers" because these guys are all middle tier place holders for a true franchise QBs.

I mean if this is just a matter of personal preference, then just say that... and stop acting like he's anything but a FA QB that's coming off an ACL injury and isn't on the roster and hasn't been given much interest by any team in the league except for a couple years on a flyer by Sean Payton (who held him back and made him a game manager before abruptly retiring after seeing what he could do in his offense)... because it's goofy.

 

[Nolan]

This notion that JW is somehow miles better than guys like Teddy, or even TH7... Is super perplexing to me. There is literally no evidence to back that up from a results on the field standpoint.

There's actually a ton of evidence to back this up. Just watch the games. If you really couldn't tell a difference between this team last year under Jameis versus Taysom, then you're just not paying attention. Jameis was objectively miles better, like not even debatable. Taysom isn't even in the conversation to be our quarterback next year. You might be the only person on the planet with that take, I mean that.

 

[Dago]

If he is affordable, go with JW and see what it would take to acquire Gardner Minshew. His salary is minimal, still young, a really good backup and we could get a look at his future potential (if there is any there as a starter)