The Older I get the Less I Can Stand Teenagers! (1 Viewer)

[Scorpius the Allfather]

I really don't appreciate you saying I am full of myself. Seriously, I am worlds more mature than other people my age and I do know that. I am not every other teenager that thinks that with no evidence to support it. If you knew me personally, you would understand. You could even ask my peers, they also know I am more mature than they are.

Please reread my post, I had said that I tend to believe you just by reading your posts. You definitely do not come across as a 16 year old. You actually use grammatically correct English, and use commas and periods instead of being lazy and shorthanding your typing as if saving 34 seconds to get a point across is crucial. But what I'm saying is a fact, teenagers think they know more then they do; I'm not very far removed from being a teenager myself at age 25. You said multiple times how mature you are over every other teenager, how is that not being full of yourself? That is not necessarily a bad thing, as long as you are still grounded in reality. You have to realize that you are coming off as "I know how I'm supposed to be, but I'm not, so I gotta have a leg up on everyone else." That's being full of yourself. Want a synonym for being full of youself? It's called confidence. Hopefully now you still don't have a defensive answer, which teenagers seemingly always have. Please also reread my last sentence in my post you referenced, I think it still applies.

 

[porculator]

Teenagers get a lot better when they figure out how to handle their booze.

 

[Joe OKC]

Ive pretty much run across every type of teenager there is. Most of the kids that work for me are teenagers. Some of the are just like everyone is talking about, rude, lazy and generally inconsiderate of anyone else. There are some though that I would trust with the keys to my store. Ive got one girl (18) and one guy (18) who work harder, care more, and do the right thing more often than the 25 to 40 yr olds that work for me. They even have gone so far as to tell me when they thought one of their frinds was stealing. I mean to end a friendship over a short time job because its the right thing to do is just really impressive to me. Dont get me wrong I think alot of this generation takes gangster rap as gospel instead of entertainment and try to live their lives by the songs but I wont loop em all in together because there are a few I will be sorry to see go off to college

Good post and I hear ya, but time takes it's toll... My favorite is the waitress. She comes in and works two hours and decides it is not for her and she walks out... Six months later she comes back again wanting her check.... And she has kept track of her hours too...

So you spend a half a day diggin up a six month old time card and a six month old paystub, just to prove her wrong.... But they know everything...

I feel your pain

Joe

 

[Sonof504]

I must admit that most of us are just wow. I find myself extremely annoyed with like 90% of my school. That's probably because I live in Chalmette though, I should expect no less.

 

[RazorOye]

You definitely do not come across as a 16 year old. You actually use grammatically correct English, and use commas and periods instead of being lazy and shorthanding your typing as if saving 34 seconds to get a point across is crucial. But what I'm saying is a fact, teenagers think they know more then they do; I'm not very far removed from being a teenager myself at age 25.

As a high school English teacher, I would heartily disagree with the generalization that the majority of them don't use - or try to use - correct English.

And I think that the claim that teenagers who think they know more than they do is NOT a fact. It's a stereotypical generalization. Most teenagers I teach and have taught are filled with more self-doubt than anything. That's why I love teaching existentialism to them - because it resonates with their individual angst and identity in a corporatized, commericialized world with so many competing products and sources telling them who they should be, what they should be, etc...

As for the pants - as I explained before - I sport a sag around my hips because it's more comfortable for me from when I was working construction. Not because I aspire to be someone's prison "sex toy."

It's a shame you give teenagers such little credit and base your understanding of them on such limited generalities.

 

[Saint_Kyle]

As a high school English teacher, I would heartily disagree with the generalization that the majority of them don't use - or try to use - correct English.

And I think that the claim that teenagers who know more than they do is NOT a fact. It's a stereotypical generalization. Most teenagers I teach and have taught are filled with more self-doubt than anything. That's why I love teaching existentialism to them - because it resonates with their individual angst and identity in a corporatized, commericialized world with so many competing products and sources telling them who they should be, what they should be, etc...

As for the pants - as I explained before - I sport a sag around my hips because it's more comfortable for me from when I was working construction. Not because I aspire to be someone's prison "sex toy."

It's a shame you give teenagers such little credit and base your understanding of them on such limited generalities.

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

As a high school English teacher, I would heartily disagree with the generalization that the majority of them don't use - or try to use - correct English.

And I think that the claim that teenagers who think they know more than they do is NOT a fact. It's a stereotypical generalization. Most teenagers I teach and have taught are filled with more self-doubt than anything. That's why I love teaching existentialism to them - because it resonates with their individual angst and identity in a corporatized, commericialized world with so many competing products and sources telling them who they should be, what they should be, etc...

As for the pants - as I explained before - I sport a sag around my hips because it's more comfortable for me from when I was working construction. Not because I aspire to be someone's prison "sex toy."

It's a shame you give teenagers such little credit and base your understanding of them on such limited generalities.

I meant using correct English online. And obviously what I'm talking about are generalizations. Point is, there are generalizations for a reason, because they are, for the most part, true. Granted, it doesn't hold up for everybody, but I guarantee it's more true than it is not true.

 

[SaintJ]

I meant using correct English online. And obviously what I'm talking about are generalizations. Point is, there are generalizations for a reason, because they are, for the most part, true.

Other than the part about proper sentence construction.

Granted, it doesn't hold up for everybody, but I guarantee it's more true than it is not true.

If "it" is "people of all ages, especially non-teenagers, tossing terrible grammar, spelling, usage, sentence structure, bad arguments, leaps of logic, strained interpretations, misunderstandings of obvious facts and other unreadable blather all over SR.com, and then complaining about the spelling and grammar police," then you may well be safe on that guarantee.

Not that I mean to offend anyone with a generalization.

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

Other than the part about proper sentence construction.

I was not necessarily talking about proper sentence construction. I'm talking about shortening words by 2-4 letters to the point that unless you know what is meant, it is unreadable, as if that is saving any amount of time that is noteworthy.

[/quote]If "it" is "people of all ages, especially non-teenagers, tossing terrible grammar, spelling, usage, sentence structure, bad arguments, leaps of logic, strained interpretations, misunderstandings of obvious facts and other unreadable blather all over SR.com, and then complaining about the spelling and grammar police," then you may well be safe on that guarantee. Not that I mean to offend anyone with a generalization.[/quote]

Well, it's not "people of all ages, especially non-teenagers, tossing terrible grammar, spelling, usage, sentence structure, bad arguments, leaps of logic, strained interpretations, misunderstandings of obvious facts and other unreadable blather all over SR.com, and then complaining about the spelling and grammar police," it was the generalizations. I'm sure you knew that, and were using a veiled attempt to attack my point of view. I'm fine with that, I don't get upset over what someone types. Words cannot hurt someone unless they let them. My motivation was to get Joe to see it like I did and not get all bent out of shape just because a couple of people on the internet said something that upsets him. After the first time he stated it, it should have been dropped, and we ALL should have moved onward. That did not happen. Instead he harped on it, and I tried to help. This will be my last reply to this matter; please try to understand, I'm tired of this stupid nonsense that has thread jacked this particular thread. If any further comments are deemed necessary, then pm me with them. Other than that, my last words for this reply are, WHO DAT!!

 

[Mr. Littlejeans]

I am 16 years old, don't smoke, don't do any drugs, don't drink at ALL, respect older people very much and act very mature for my age. I take every opportunity I can to work hard and help other people in the process, and always try to make myself a better person. So to hate me because I am a teenager is really ridiculous. I strongly hate a lot of the things my peers do, and try not to associate with the ones that do really dumb things, but in High School if I didn't associate with anyone that did things I disapprove of I'd never talk to anyone. So do you hate me? If so, burn in hell.

You are wasting your youth. Go do some stuff you ain't sposta do.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

You are wasting your youth. Go do some stuff you ain't sposta do.

 

[SaintJ]

I was not necessarily talking about proper sentence construction. I'm talking about shortening words by 2-4 letters to the point that unless you know what is meant, it is unreadable, as if that is saving any amount of time that is noteworthy.

It's not just about saving time, it's about saving money and getting text messages out more quickly Text messages also have a maximum length.

If you text, you learn the language and you know what it means.

It's a natural and appropriate adjustment of language to adapt to the technology. The people who use the technology regularly know exactly what the text words and acronyms mean.

Sounds like those teenagers are pretty smart to me.

 

[RazorOye]

I was not necessarily talking about proper sentence construction. I'm talking about shortening words by 2-4 letters to the point that unless you know what is meant, it is unreadable, as if that is saving any amount of time that is noteworthy.

This will be my last reply to this matter; please try to understand, I'm tired of this stupid nonsense that has thread jacked this particular thread. If any further comments are deemed necessary, then pm me with them. Other than that, my last words for this reply are, WHO DAT!!

Those abbreviations began to be popular on informal internet message boards but became a crutch of communication for IM'ing and texting via cell phones and the like.

What's wrong with that?

I have graded thousands of papers and rare was the "lol" or "sup" or "cu l8r" I came across.

Seems to me that the students are aware of audience and are savvy enough to produce, or attempt to produce, a piece of formal writing when it's necessary and called for and will resort to shorthand informalities with their friends.

Do you speak to your friends in the same way you do in a job interview or in front of a conference audience? I know I don't.

I text with my friends and will resort to the same shorthand you're referring to. But I also know how to move across contexts, from a dialog standpoint, depending on the situation. Oral or written. I write differently in emails than I do in papers I'm submitting to journals. I speak differently to my advisor than I do to the department chair when I am requesting funding. I will chat via google documents with other scholars over a strictly electronic medium differently than I do my guildmates in World of Warcraft or my friends in a Starcraft match.

This generalization is inaccurate.

And you are stating your opinion - two now that are clearly opinions and I think are wrong - claiming they are "fact" which is nonsensical.

As for the second point - this is a message board. You made two ludicrous claims based on limited interaction and stereotypes and decided to call them facts and you got called out on it.

Why should the discussion on a message board end like that? To say "Well, when I said XXX that should've been the end of the discussion - just PM me" What you are exhibiting, in my opinion, is precisely what this thread is about: What are your feelings about teenagers and why do you feel that way? Is it justified? Is it a product of age? Etc... I think your posts demonstrate key points for talking about a typical frustration expressed about teenagers - the way they informally communicate, in a way that you don't understand fully. So I don't agree that it should be moved to a strictly-PM discussion. It's not as if it's off-topic and should be moved to another arena for discussion.

You know as well as I that message boards don't operate that way. You make claims that several people disagrees with and then you expect them to just PM you?

C'mon....

edit: SaintJ beat me to the first point

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

Those abbreviations began to be popular on informal internet message boards but became a crutch of communication for IM'ing and texting via cell phones and the like.

What's wrong with that?

I have graded thousands of papers and rare was the "lol" or "sup" or "cu l8r" I came across.

Seems to me that the students are aware of audience and are savvy enough to produce, or attempt to produce, a piece of formal writing when it's necessary and called for and will resort to shorthand informalities with their friends.

Do you speak to your friends in the same way you do in a job interview or in front of a conference audience? I know I don't.

I text with my friends and will resort to the same shorthand you're referring to. But I also know how to move across contexts, from a dialog standpoint, depending on the situation. Oral or written. I write differently in emails than I do in papers I'm submitting to journals. I speak differently to my advisor than I do to the department chair when I am requesting funding. I will chat via google documents with other scholars over a strictly electronic medium differently than I do my guildmates in World of Warcraft or my friends in a Starcraft match.

This generalization is inaccurate.

And you are stating your opinion - two now that are clearly opinions and I think are wrong - claiming they are "fact" which is nonsensical.

As for the second point - this is a message board. You made two ludicrous claims based on limited interaction and stereotypes and decided to call them facts and you got called out on it.

Why should the discussion on a message board end like that? To say "Well, when I said XXX that should've been the end of the discussion - just PM me" What you are exhibiting, in my opinion, is precisely what this thread is about: What are your feelings about teenagers and why do you feel that way? Is it justified? Is it a product of age? Etc... I think your posts demonstrate key points for talking about a typical frustration expressed about teenagers - the way they informally communicate, in a way that you don't understand fully. So I don't agree that it should be moved to a strictly-PM discussion. It's not as if it's off-topic and should be moved to another arena for discussion.

You know as well as I that message boards don't operate that way. You make claims that several people disagrees with and then you expect them to just PM you?

C'mon....

edit: SaintJ beat me to the first point

I have realized that I failed in my attempt to get whatever my drunken point was across and for that I apologize. I did state opinions as facts, and I hate it when someone does that, so again, my apologies. I stated it before, but they need to make a smiley that is eating crow. I don't think that applies here, but I would use it if it did.

 

[Richard]

I like my teenagers grilled, with a nice chianti.