The organization and the culture (3 Viewers)

[SaintsFanInLA]

It’s been 8 seasons since 2017 and only two of them have been losing seasons.

And in those 8 seasons how many NFCCG wins and Super Bowl appearances, did we have?

 

[SaintsFanInLA]

Look at the Packers post Lombardi to Favre.
A literal desert. Nothing. 30 years of trash.
My parents weren’t even 10 when Lombardi won those championships.

And yes, the Steelers have six, but in recent history, they have two.
Not taking anything away, but there was a twenty six year gap.

And the Eagles weren’t anything special before Reid. And they still have the same number of Super Bowls as the Saints.

The Packers are 37-26 in the playoffs. Winning percentage.

The Steelers have SIX Lombardis and are 36-28 in the playoffs. Winning percentage.

The Eagles are 26-25 in the playoffs, and as I've mentioned, are losers. But they are better than us because they've won multiple NFCCGs and therefore multiple Super Bowl appearances. They couldn't close the deal 3 out of 4 times.

Saints are 10-13 in the playoffs. Losing percentage.

Again, the Saints are a loser franchise with an overall history of a losing record and a losing playoff record. It's unfortunate but that's what it is. The numbers tell you we are literal losers, by definition. Getting mad or upset at me for pointing it out doesn't change it. Only the Saints actually winning can. And I mean winning playoff games and Super Bowls.

We had to fire a Head Coach IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON that anyone with common sense knew shouldn't helm a team, our stars are all old and oft-injured, the officials love calling penalties on us in high leverage moments, we are in cap H-E- Double Hockey sticks, Brees is gone, Payton is gone, Cam Jordan is 97 years old, and I don't know our draft situation but I highly doubt we could fix what's wrong in one draft.

So, tell me where does glimmer of hope lie? Please.

 

[Saint Jack]

The Packers are 37-26 in the playoffs. Winning percentage.

The Steelers have SIX Lombardis and are 36-28 in the playoffs. Winning percentage.

The Eagles are 26-25 in the playoffs, and as I've mentioned, are losers. But they are better than us because they've won multiple NFCCGsand therefore multiple Super Bowl appearances. They couldn't close the deal 3 out of 4 times.

Saints are 10-13 in the playoffs. Losing percentage.

Again, the Saints are a loser franchise with an overall history of a losing record and a losing playoff record. It's unfortunate but that's what it is. The numbers tell you we are literal losers, by definition. Getting mad or upset at me for pointing it out doesn't change it. Only the Saints actually winning can. And I mean winning playoff games and Super Bowls.

We had to fire a Head Coach IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON that anyone with common sense knew should helma team, or stars are all old and oft-injured, the officials love calling penalties on us in high leverage moments, we are in cap H-E- Double Hockey sticks, Brees is gone, Payton is gone, Cam Jordan is 97 years old, and I don't know our fast situation but I highly doubt we could fix what's wrong in one draft.

So, tell me where does glimmer of hope lie? Please.

I don’t let the ghosts of the Meacom era haunt me.
I’m 33 now. The Saints have a winning percentage during my lifetime.
You can go back even further to the entire Benson ownership, which is getting close to 40 years now.
They have a winning record.

 

[Saint Jack]

The Packers are 37-26 in the playoffs. Winning percentage.

The Steelers have SIX Lombardis and are 36-28 in the playoffs. Winning percentage.

The Eagles are 26-25 in the playoffs, and as I've mentioned, are losers. But they are better than us because they've won multiple NFCCGsand therefore multiple Super Bowl appearances. They couldn't close the deal 3 out of 4 times.

Saints are 10-13 in the playoffs. Losing percentage.

Again, the Saints are a loser franchise with an overall history of a losing record and a losing playoff record. It's unfortunate but that's what it is. The numbers tell you we are literal losers, by definition. Getting mad or upset at me for pointing it out doesn't change it. Only the Saints actually winning can. And I mean winning playoff games and Super Bowls.

We had to fire a Head Coach IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON that anyone with common sense knew should helma team, or stars are all old and oft-injured, the officials love calling penalties on us in high leverage moments, we are in cap H-E- Double Hockey sticks, Brees is gone, Payton is gone, Cam Jordan is 97 years old, and I don't know our fast situation but I highly doubt we could fix what's wrong in one draft.

So, tell me where does glimmer of hope lie? Please.

I’m not claiming the Saints are an all time franchise.
And yes, there is some more work to do.
Personally, it’s not completely done until the franchise evens out the all time winning percentage.
But there comes a point where the ghosts of the Meacom Era don’t matter because it’s been soooo long ago.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Didn’t want to start a thread….maybe this is not related to the team…cryptic.

 

[NatureBoy]

Drew wouldn't make a good GM. First with his kids I don't think he would want it. 2nd, he was always for the player to make as much money as possible. He tried to set the market in his time with contracts. Then to reverse and say cant pay this player X amount. I just don't see it.

I've been thinking that Drew could have a "special assistant to the owner" type of title so that Mrs. Benson could have a confidant with football DNA and relationships. Would be more of a consultant type of job.

 

[Saint Jack]

I've been thinking that Drew could have a "special assistant to the owner" type of title so that Mrs. Benson could have a confidant with football DNA and relationships. Would be more of a consultant type of job.

Not saying it’s comparable, but that’s how Elway worked his way into the Broncos GM. And the Arena team at the time, the Colorado Crush.

 

[bayoumilitia]

He would be a great GM or even HC but he's too busy raising kids that are barely reaching teenage years or younger. He won't give that up to do a job that commands a good part of your life!

Oh I 100% agree with you. Now could something be worked out between him and the organization as far as his title or time requirements? Maybe. All I know is I wouldn’t mind Drew being a part of our organization again in any capacity even in an advisory capacity to Ms Gayle. Whether it’s advising her on offensive strategy, personnel, culture, practice habits, training regimes, you name it. At this point could it really hurt??

 

[No2DC]

The Packers are 37-26 in the playoffs. Winning percentage.

The Steelers have SIX Lombardis and are 36-28 in the playoffs. Winning percentage.

The Eagles are 26-25 in the playoffs, and as I've mentioned, are losers. But they are better than us because they've won multiple NFCCGs and therefore multiple Super Bowl appearances. They couldn't close the deal 3 out of 4 times.

Saints are 10-13 in the playoffs. Losing percentage.

Again, the Saints are a loser franchise with an overall history of a losing record and a losing playoff record. It's unfortunate but that's what it is. The numbers tell you we are literal losers, by definition. Getting mad or upset at me for pointing it out doesn't change it. Only the Saints actually winning can. And I mean winning playoff games and Super Bowls.

We had to fire a Head Coach IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON that anyone with common sense knew shouldn't helm a team, our stars are all old and oft-injured, the officials love calling penalties on us in high leverage moments, we are in cap H-E- Double Hockey sticks, Brees is gone, Payton is gone, Cam Jordan is 97 years old, and I don't know our fast situation but I highly doubt we could fix what's wrong in one draft.

So, tell me where does glimmer of hope lie? Please.

So, tell me how you really feel No argument from me.

 

[Rexman100]

Ochsn

Sorry my man, but it has EVERYTHING to do with Ochsner … The Ochsner Andrews Sports Medicine Institute also provides care to the Saints and other athletes (the Pelicans). The institute's team includes sports medicine physicians, ATHLETIC TAINERS, physical therapists, and orthopedic surgeons. Nutrition, too. The office is part of the Saints facility on Airline Drive. … Argue all you want … look at both the Saints and the Pelicans, and if you can’t see an obvious common denominator, I don’t know what to tell you.

How many injuries can you remember in Sean Payton’s entire Saints career. To be more specific, an injury that one would consider, severely detrimental to winning the next game? (Not counting QB, bc DB was never hurt)

Answer? 0

why? because Alpha head coaches don’t except injuries as an excuse.

 

[Rexman100]

You need to throw PLAYERS in that equation. Could be THEY need to take better care of their OWN bodies since they make MILLIONS with them

Two things. Fear is a motivation that cures injuries. Also, if you’re the team delivering the damage, you’re less likely to be injured. If you’re only reacting to contact, you’re more likely to be injured compared to the one initiating the contact. Like in boxing, the one absorbing the contact is usually on getting TKO’d.

 

[Rexman100]

Didn’t want to start a thread….maybe this is not related to the team…cryptic.

What is this about?

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

What is this about?

No clue, which is why I didn’t start a thread and stated it was cryptic.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

Didn’t want to start a thread….maybe this is not related to the team…cryptic.

He's lucky...I always get stabbed in the balls

 

[Clintonrebel]

This thread makes me want to go read the Patriots board. Winning leads to high expectations and that’s a good thing.