The Science of Fasting (8 Viewers)

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Holidays can be difficult. There's a serious emphasis on emotional eating with guilt trip from well meaning loved ones.

When u can stand firm at Thanksgiving-Chistmas, its the fasting equivalent of Buddhist reaching nirvana.

I used to think that myself......but realistically, it's an excuse we make.

Thanksgiving.....ok, 1.....maybe 2 days (including Black Friday leftovers) of indulgence.

Christmas.....same deal, Christmas Eve and Day could end up being 2 days of indulgence.

I actually maintained 16/8 fasting (started doing that consistently around Halloween or so) during both of those holidays.....although I didn't have any specific eating rules during the 8 hour window (i.e. reduced sugar, etc). Oddly enough, it was shortly after New Year's that I got off track a bit, but knew that Lent was starting earlier than usual this year, and that I'd have a relatively quick reason to get back on track.

 

[Tapxe]

I used to think that myself......but realistically, it's an excuse we make.

Thanksgiving.....ok, 1.....maybe 2 days (including Black Friday leftovers) of indulgence.

Christmas.....same deal, Christmas Eve and Day could end up being 2 days of indulgence.

I actually maintained 16/8 fasting (started doing that consistently around Halloween or so) during both of those holidays.....although I didn't have any specific eating rules during the 8 hour window (i.e. reduced sugar, etc). Oddly enough, it was shortly after New Year's that I got off track a bit, but knew that Lent was starting earlier than usual this year, and that I'd have a relatively quick reason to get back on track.

I understand that. By stand firm I meant eat how you wish not necessarily as expected. I've indulged, fasted, and IF thru. Key being I ate how I wanted and told fam when I was not interested in the guilt trip.

 

[saintmdterps]

You got this. I was at ~268 in December when my Doctor told me about my liver. I was down to 253/254 on 6 Jan when we left for the Philippines and maintained that for the 3 weeks there. After we got back on 26 Jan, I slowly trended down to 243.4-243.6 which has been the case for about 4-5 days straight, including this morning. I don't have a goal weight, but I haven't been 205 in about 20 years and I was in the 220-230 range for my 30s, but most of that was muscle mass. I think my goal is somewhere less than 220 which would allow me to carry some muscle mass, but get rid of the fat around my abdomen. In my daily 16/8 now and will probably attempt my first 48 hour fast starting tomorrow (last meal tonight).

185 today coming off the weekend. Got 10 to go by April but those will be the slower pounds.

 

[DaveXA]

I used to think that myself......but realistically, it's an excuse we make.

Thanksgiving.....ok, 1.....maybe 2 days (including Black Friday leftovers) of indulgence.

Christmas.....same deal, Christmas Eve and Day could end up being 2 days of indulgence.

I actually maintained 16/8 fasting (started doing that consistently around Halloween or so) during both of those holidays.....although I didn't have any specific eating rules during the 8 hour window (i.e. reduced sugar, etc). Oddly enough, it was shortly after New Year's that I got off track a bit, but knew that Lent was starting earlier than usual this year, and that I'd have a relatively quick reason to get back on track.

For a long time now, I've just stuck with eating my normal portions during holiday meals. Never been an issue for me. Well, not in a long while. I just treat holiday meals as I would any other day.

 

[Dago]

Since we talk nutrition in this thread...

Chemical Found In Cheerios, Quaker Oats May Cause Fertility Issues, Study Suggests: What To Know About Chlormequat

Researchers found four in five Americans have been exposed to the “toxic” pesticide chlormequat, which is used in oat-based foods like Cheerios and Quaker Oats Old Fashioned Oats and can cause fertility problems in animals.

www.forbes.com

 

[Zack Lee]

Holidays can be difficult. There's a serious emphasis on emotional eating with guilt trip from well meaning loved ones.

When u can stand firm at Thanksgiving-Chistmas, its the fasting equivalent of Buddhist reaching nirvana.

I think I see what I think you did there. I would t even try. But I did ok all things considered. Fiancés family was all in town so it was a very Vietnamese Christmas and although there is the same social concentration on foods, the types of food leave me less damaged. Not having fasted since probably Oct, I was still within 6 pound striking distance of my ideal weight when I checked a few weeks ago.

Off of it the last two days and ready for a 4 day stint starting tomorrow - IF always for me. I’m curious about the multi day ones but still haven’t gotten serious about doing one.

 

[Zack Lee]

Since we talk nutrition in this thread...

Chemical Found In Cheerios, Quaker Oats May Cause Fertility Issues, Study Suggests: What To Know About Chlormequat

Researchers found four in five Americans have been exposed to the “toxic” pesticide chlormequat, which is used in oat-based foods like Cheerios and Quaker Oats Old Fashioned Oats and can cause fertility problems in animals.

www.forbes.com

The name should have led us to believe it would do that or something similar.

 

[SaintInBucLand]

Since we talk nutrition in this thread...

Chemical Found In Cheerios, Quaker Oats May Cause Fertility Issues, Study Suggests: What To Know About Chlormequat

Researchers found four in five Americans have been exposed to the “toxic” pesticide chlormequat, which is used in oat-based foods like Cheerios and Quaker Oats Old Fashioned Oats and can cause fertility problems in animals.

www.forbes.com

But it 'may' lower cholesterol and the heart association slapped a heart healthy logo on it, so it has to be good!

 

[SoggyBottomBoy]

But it 'may' lower cholesterol and the heart association slapped a heart healthy logo on it, so it has to be good!

I'm already bummed to hear this about my Cheerios. Don't pile on.

 

[Dago]

 

[Tapxe]

I'm glad they are catching up. I'm sure they could get more participants and details in this thread than the 12 they managed tho.

Short version, protein changes occur after three days and found much longer than that is dangerous. We've heard that from Jamnadas for a few years now.

Study Reveals a Major Drawback to The Health Benefits of Fasting

This is very different to what we thought.

www.sciencealert.com

 

[SaintInBucLand]

I'm glad they are catching up. I'm sure they could get more participants and details in this thread than the 12 they managed tho.

Short version, protein changes occur after three days and found much longer than that is dangerous. We've heard that from Jamnadas for a few years now.

Study Reveals a Major Drawback to The Health Benefits of Fasting

This is very different to what we thought.

www.sciencealert.com

I'm skeptical. Sounds like the article is trying to dissuade people from intermittent fasting. Surprise, the billion dollar medical(and food) industry doesn't want you doing something that can help you be healthy without the intervention of drugs or medical assistance. We know sure fire the food industry doesn't want people fasting. I have been noticing a lot of doctors, nutritionists and gym-bro influencers of late trying to push back against fasting, protein, and the use of CGMs. These industries do not want people to be healthy, between then food and drug industries we are talking hundreds of billions of dollars.

I made two major changes in the last couple years that have dramatically changed my health. I went to a very high protein and fat diet(which is mostly saturated fats as well), and I have been doing intermittent fasting for roughly the same amount of time. eating window between 10:30am-5:30pm. I lost 50lbs, completely eradicated gerd, heartburn and IBS.

 

[Tapxe]

I'm skeptical. Sounds like the article is trying to dissuade people from intermittent fasting. Surprise, the billion dollar medical(and food) industry doesn't want you doing something that can help you be healthy without the intervention of drugs or medical assistance. We know sure fire the food industry doesn't want people fasting. I have been noticing a lot of doctors, nutritionists and gym-bro influencers of late trying to push back against fasting, protein, and the use of CGMs. These industries do not want people to be healthy, between then food and drug industries we are talking hundreds of billions of dollars.

I made two major changes in the last couple years that have dramatically changed my health. I went to a very high protein and fat diet(which is mostly saturated fats as well), and I have been doing intermittent fasting for roughly the same amount of time. eating window between 10:30am-5:30pm. I lost 50lbs, completely eradicated gerd, heartburn and IBS.

I understand and it reads that way to me as well. I think the key take away for me is that the main benefit of intermittent fasting is the calorie restriction and associated health improvements. However, the deeper changes like autophagy and gene expression require extended fasting.

 

[SaintInBucLand]

I understand and it reads that way to me as well. I think the key take away for me is that the main benefit of intermittent fasting is the calorie restriction and associated health improvements. However, the deeper changes like autophagy and gene expression require extended fasting.

Like you said, you could have gotten more than 12 people from this very thread who would be interested in being part of a study, that is another thing that makes me very skeptical as well. A 12 person study is as good as anecdotal.

According to google roughly 10% of the US population are doing intermittent fasting(which is much higher than I would have thought(good job people)). That is roughly 33 million people. Imagine how much money in sales that is costing the food industry.

 

[Dago]

Like you said, you could have gotten more than 12 people from this very thread who would be interested in being part of a study, that is another thing that makes me very skeptical as well. A 12 person study is as good as anecdotal.

According to google roughly 10% of the US population are doing intermittent fasting(which is much higher than I would have thought(good job people)). That is roughly 33 million people. Imagine how much money in sales that is costing the food industry.