The Science of Fasting (1 Viewer)

[SaintInBucLand]

I was curious about the drink.

I sorta wanna just get up and go for a 1 mile walk and stall the crystal light until 11/12 for the fast. But damn that’ll be a helluva habit breaker for me.

But whatever. I can try it. Did it years ago

Welcome to the world of fasting and lower food bills for yourself

I have been doing 16-8 for over a year now and routinely will add in some 24 and 36 hour fasts here and there. Some days I will randomly do a OMAD which is essentially a 24 hour fast, I guess you can call it a 23-1 as well.

I started off keto but ended up going mostly carnivore after experimenting with elimination. I went from 230 down to 177 in roughly 6 months. If you can get in a good groove be prepared to spend some of that money you have been saying on new clothes.

 

[jayd265]

So today couldn’t follow a “routine”.

So did what I could. I left the house at 7:00am and drove 9 hours for a work trip.

So for my first official fast, from yest at 7pm to today i fasted 21:40. Ate supper then walked 3 miles. Probably should’ve done that in reverse. But had food already. At home id be more consistent with cardio/food.

So tomorrow not eating at hotel. Going to a job site. So I’ll leave there and drive 8-9 hours Home. Might end up hitting a 24-27 hour fast depending if I stop for food.

They have green tea In the hotel. Plan to make one of those since I don’t do coffee and trying to not drink crystal light energy during the fast timeline.

 

[Dago]

I know we talk about Autophagy a lot, but here is a good article on it and gives tips on maximizing it for HGH. A little farther down from what I posted, it gives tips for using autophagy to increase HGH production by more than 500% in clinical studies

Autophagy - The Most Powerful Longevity Tool

Have you ever wondered why fasting is an institutionalised health strategy in several cultures? Think Ramadan for the Muslim culture, or Yom Kippur for the Jewish. As is almost always the case, there is traditional wisdom driving these rituals. The first, common sense thing to recognise is the...

blog.nutri-tech.com.au

In a well-fed state, your cells are in constant growth mode. This can actually have dire consequences, particularly relative to cancer. In the presence of abundant food, the insulin signalling and mTOR pathways that tell the cell to grow, divide and synthesise proteins, are constantly active. What is mTOR, I hear you thinking? It refers to “the mammalian target of rapamycin”, which sounds more like a rampaging flesh-eating reptile than an important bodily function. In fact, this cell-signalling system drives cell growth and protein formation. When it is constantly active in the presence of abundant carbohydrates and proteins, mTOR effectively shuts down an essential cell cleansing process, called autophagy.

There is a brake to the mTOR accelerator and it is called AMPK. When you fast or exercise, or both, you switch on the AMPK pathway, which puts the cell in protective mode and inhibits mTOR. AMPK also activates autophagy.

Understand that you are a community of ten trillion cells, and when autophagy activates, your body can identify, destroy and replace faulty mechanics within those cells. Without autophagy, you’re effectively running the amazing machine called the human body without any servicing. I’m sure you’re aware of what happens to farm machinery in that scenario. I wish I had thought a little more about that likely outcome before committing to $400,000 of neglected machinery that came with my latest farm purchase. I’m now constantly frowning at a flood of bills, but my mechanic is definitely smiling.

The decline linked to ageing can be strongly linked to the absence of autophagy, in an overfed world. We are talking about comprehensive research linking poor autophagy to Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s, type 2 diabetes, atherosclerosis, fatty liver disease, stroke, CHD, cancer, obesity and polycystic kidney disease.

It is now understood that fasting can activate autophagy, while also increasing the release of Human Growth Hormone. This is the anti-aging hormone that impacts multiple bodily systems for the better. It is a wonderful win/win scenario. So, let’s look at the dynamics of fasting, relative to these two highly desirable, regenerative outcomes.


I'm 47 years old and was sedentary since 2015 due to spine and shoulder injuries. My doctor agreed that I could start exercising anything above my lower back provided I wore compression and a back brace (thinking about getting an EMS unit to start working the abs, legs, and lower back). I've been doing (moderately) healthy keto and intermittent fasting for quite awhile now....went from 300 pounds to 185. Been working out my upper back, arms, chest, and shoulders for about 6 weeks now after nothing for 8 years and I am already working out with 135 pounds on incline bench and can do about 20 dips (I can do a couple pullups now but my surgically repaired shoulder doesn't like it)

Just had my annual bloodwork done and everything is perfect. Even my cholesterol is good despite being told by doctors that keto would lead to elevated cholesterol (and it was high before I started all this). No more fatty liver, no more high blood pressure, no more high cholesterol, no more pre-diabetes.

I'm thinking about getting a DEXA scan now at Pennington. Currently I eat about 1100-1300 calories a day while getting about 120 grams of protein (relying on my remaining fat stores to give me the extra needed energy for muscle growth). Once I get my body fat under 20% I am going to have to increase my caloric intake and I have no idea how I am going to get that many (healthy) calories...I really don't feel like eating much anymore

 

[SaintInBucLand]

I know we talk about Autophagy a lot, but here is a good article on it and gives tips on maximizing it for HGH. A little farther down from what I posted, it gives tips for using autophagy to increase HGH production by more than 500% in clinical studies

Autophagy - The Most Powerful Longevity Tool

Have you ever wondered why fasting is an institutionalised health strategy in several cultures? Think Ramadan for the Muslim culture, or Yom Kippur for the Jewish. As is almost always the case, there is traditional wisdom driving these rituals. The first, common sense thing to recognise is the...

blog.nutri-tech.com.au

In a well-fed state, your cells are in constant growth mode. This can actually have dire consequences, particularly relative to cancer. In the presence of abundant food, the insulin signalling and mTOR pathways that tell the cell to grow, divide and synthesise proteins, are constantly active. What is mTOR, I hear you thinking? It refers to “the mammalian target of rapamycin”, which sounds more like a rampaging flesh-eating reptile than an important bodily function. In fact, this cell-signalling system drives cell growth and protein formation. When it is constantly active in the presence of abundant carbohydrates and proteins, mTOR effectively shuts down an essential cell cleansing process, called autophagy.

There is a brake to the mTOR accelerator and it is called AMPK. When you fast or exercise, or both, you switch on the AMPK pathway, which puts the cell in protective mode and inhibits mTOR. AMPK also activates autophagy.

Understand that you are a community of ten trillion cells, and when autophagy activates, your body can identify, destroy and replace faulty mechanics within those cells. Without autophagy, you’re effectively running the amazing machine called the human body without any servicing. I’m sure you’re aware of what happens to farm machinery in that scenario. I wish I had thought a little more about that likely outcome before committing to $400,000 of neglected machinery that came with my latest farm purchase. I’m now constantly frowning at a flood of bills, but my mechanic is definitely smiling.

The decline linked to ageing can be strongly linked to the absence of autophagy, in an overfed world. We are talking about comprehensive research linking poor autophagy to Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s, type 2 diabetes, atherosclerosis, fatty liver disease, stroke, CHD, cancer, obesity and polycystic kidney disease.

It is now understood that fasting can activate autophagy, while also increasing the release of Human Growth Hormone. This is the anti-aging hormone that impacts multiple bodily systems for the better. It is a wonderful win/win scenario. So, let’s look at the dynamics of fasting, relative to these two highly desirable, regenerative outcomes.


I'm 47 years old and was sedentary since 2015 due to spine and shoulder injuries. My doctor agreed that I could start exercising anything above my lower back provided I wore compression and a back brace (thinking about getting an EMS unit to start working the abs, legs, and lower back). I've been doing (moderately) healthy keto and intermittent fasting for quite awhile now....went from 300 pounds to 185. Been working out my upper back, arms, chest, and shoulders for about 6 weeks now after nothing for 8 years and I am already working out with 135 pounds on incline bench and can do about 20 dips (I can do a couple pullups now but my surgically repaired shoulder doesn't like it)

Just had my annual bloodwork done and everything is perfect. Even my cholesterol is good despite being told by doctors that keto would lead to elevated cholesterol (and it was high before I started all this). No more fatty liver, no more high blood pressure, no more high cholesterol, no more pre-diabetes.

I'm thinking about getting a DEXA scan now at Pennington. Currently I eat about 1100-1300 calories a day while getting about 120 grams of protein (relying on my remaining fat stores to give me the extra needed energy for muscle growth). Once I get my body fat under 20% I am going to have to increase my caloric intake and I have no idea how I am going to get that many (healthy) calories...I really don't feel like eating much anymore

Your journey has been a lot like mine.

I hover between 175-180lbs and have never felt better. I am about 90% carnivore with the inclusion of broccoli, honey(on my ribeyes), and dark chocolate(which now gives me slight jitters anytime I eat it). It amazes me how so many people told me I would have issues when I started this nearly a year ago. The only downside was having to spend a lot of money on new clothing. My bloodwork is also damn near perfect, my LDL is lower than it was when I was eating a SAD(standard american diet) and I eat FAR more saturated fat now than I ever did.

Also I have been doing continuous 18-6 intermittent fasting with 2 meals per day.

 

[Dago]

Your journey has been a lot like mine.

I hover between 175-180lbs and have never felt better. I am about 90% carnivore with the inclusion of broccoli, honey(on my ribeyes), and dark chocolate(which now gives me slight jitters anytime I eat it). It amazes me how so many people told me I would have issues when I started this nearly a year ago. The only downside was having to spend a lot of money on new clothing. My bloodwork is also damn near perfect, my LDL is lower than it was when I was eating a SAD(standard american diet) and I eat FAR more saturated fat now than I ever did.

Also I have been doing continuous 18-6 intermittent fasting with 2 meals per day.

The gains in strength are pretty amazing. When I started I could barely do a pushup. Had to do them with my knees down. Problem is that I don't want to end up looking like one of those guys who has a massive upper body and no legs

 

[SaintInBucLand]

The gains in strength are pretty amazing. When I started I could barely do a pushup. Had to do them with my knees down. Problem is that I don't want to end up looking like one of those guys who has a massive upper body and no legs

I do kettlebell swings and squats every other day now, it really helps. Plus best way to deplete glycogen stores.

 

[Dago]

I do kettlebell swings and squats every other day now, it really helps. Plus best way to deplete glycogen stores.

Unfortunately I can't do those

 

[SaintInBucLand]

Unfortunately I can't do those

The kettlebell swings or either?

this can be very helpful if you have issues with squats.

 

[Dago]

The kettlebell swings or either?

this can be very helpful if you have issues with squats.

Kettlebell swings move your hips and lower back.

 

[Tapxe]

First eye exam since pre-covid and the OMAD\IF full dietary change.

Dr Jamnadas might be onto something. My old prescription is 2x as bad as I now need.

I think my optometrist is going to do some fasting research after I explained how I'd dropped all the weight and what I could convey of the gene expression and biochemical impact it had.

 

[SaintInBucLand]

First eye exam since pre-covid and the OMAD\IF full dietary change.

Dr Jamnadas might be onto something. My old prescription is 2x as bad as I now need.

I think my optometrist is going to do some fasting research after I explained how I'd dropped all the weight and what I could convey of the gene expression and biochemical impact it had.

I hardly ever use my glasses anymore outside of my prescription sunglasses when I drive.

The one thing I can say that does annoy me since fasting. The insane rate of growth of my hair and nails now.

 

[SaintInBucLand]

Speaking of Dr Jamnadas. This is a great video to watch.

Especially pay attention to the processed seed oil segment.

 

[Tapxe]

Speaking of Dr Jamnadas. This is a great video to watch.

Especially pay attention to the processed seed oil segment.

99% of the time I add an oil, it's Chosen food Avocado which reportedly is tested and verified as pure. There's a couple more, but not all brands are oil you want.

TL:DR

I find avo holds up to heat much better than olive. I can take avo up to 450, but stay below 375 with olive. I roast veggies with poultry. Preheat the cast iron to 425 and that chicken skin gets nice and crispy. At the flip on the thighs (~20 mins), I start adding garlic, onion, potatoes, turnips, Brussel sprouts, radishes, ... well pretty much all the root veg. Jalapeno chili's, mushrooms, and broccoli or cauliflower I toss over the top closer to finish. I play with textures by adding veggies at different points of the protein cook which is interesting.

I've perfected a medium onion chopped in half then roasted ~425 in cast iron. Lay the onion flat side down in the oil with some seasoning. I find a good Indian style garam masala works about perfect with the sweetness of the onion but it's great with simply S&P or what ever flavor you are in the mood. I caramelize the onion bottom and create a sweet slight crunch where the inner layers are just starting to turn translucent. If you do it right, you'll understand cuz it's wonderful.

Sometimes I'll de-case and crumble sausage or chopped bacon instead of adding oil with a dry protein. It's honestly better, but I like to keep that as a reward for milestones. The garam masala works really well with a coconut oil too. You have to adjust temps down for it. But I've found a CBD coconut which makes me feel pretty relaxed a couple hours after eating.

There are many ways to avoid seed oil and have a much better experience for it.

 

[SaintInBucLand]

New study showing very low carb diet out performs the DASH diet in terms of weight loss, lowering blood pressure and diabetes markers.