The Science of Fasting (2 Viewers)

[mjcouvi]

Wanted to start a fast Wed. Failed and pigged out big time. Since the holidays, none of my shirts looks right and the Dunlap is edging over.

Short story long, I'm ~53hrs clean from sugar and ~48 water fast. Planning to break tomorrow since I put red beans to soak, but the hunger just left.

Anyone know how to keep soaked red beans longer before cooking?

Let them sprout. Then cook them. They’ll taste better and they’ll be far less toxic.

 

[Tapxe]

Let them sprout. Then cook them. They’ll taste better and they’ll be far less toxic.

I've heard of that with whole grain rice because of s compound which can bind to iron and create a deficiency if rice is a major dietary component.

I knew lectin is flushed from Red beans by an overnight soak, water change and 10 min boil. I'll have to research the sprout option. I like having options.

 

[Snakehead]

Wanted to start a fast Wed. Failed and pigged out big time. Since the holidays, none of my shirts looks right and the Dunlap is edging over.

Short story long, I'm ~53hrs clean from sugar and ~48 water fast. Planning to break tomorrow since I put red beans to soak, but the hunger just left.

Anyone know how to keep soaked red beans longer before cooking?

I'm going to try my first ~48hr fast this week. I've got the daily ~16/8 down with some days going 17-18 and last Wednesday I hit 22hrs.

 

[Snakehead]

If you find yourself unable to cut carbs sufficiently enough to get into ketosis for its benefits then I suggest trying intermittent fasting. Fasting is another way to get your body into ketosis for a small window to take advantage of the healing and regenerative effects on a daily basis with IM(intermittent fasting).

Ketosis is just your body becoming fat adapted, meaning your body is burning fat for fuel rather than carbs.

The article makes a bit of a mistake saying there are keto diets with more carbs for those who cannot handle cutting out carbs entirely, but then it really isn't keto. Anything more than 8-10g of carbs is going to take somebody out of ketosis or prevent them from becoming fat adapted.

Other benefits you will see from cutting out carbs are a dramatic drop in water weight, as well as a drop in blood pressure. Excess carbs in the blood require water for transportation through the blood stream. Less water from less cabs in the body and blood stream means less pressure on blood vessels./arteries and capillaries. It's always said that salt raises your blood pressure, and this is true if you eat the typical 250-350 grams of carbs per day, but if you are low carb the salt doesn't have the deleterious effect on your blood pressure.

Thanks for the info. I think I am getting the benefits of both Intermittent Fasting and Keto. I haven't taken my BP in awhile, but I should take it so see if there us an improvement.

 

[Tapxe]

I'm going to try my first ~48hr fast this week. I've got the daily ~16/8 down with some days going 17-18 and last Wednesday I hit 22hrs.

That's how I started 80#'s ago. Take it easy and listen to your body. If you wind up going longer than 48 hrs, I'd recommend heeding Dr Jamnadas' advice about breaking the fast with a good deal of bone broth. He says the body instruction will be to create stem cells which need elements from that broth. If it's not available via broth, it'll take it from your existing bones.

 

[Snakehead]

That's how I started 80#'s ago. Take it easy and listen to your body. If you wind up going longer than 48 hrs, I'd recommend heeding Dr Jamnadas' advice about breaking the fast with a good deal of bone broth. He says the body instruction will be to create stem cells which need elements from that broth. If it's not available via broth, it'll take it from your existing bones.

Thanks, I'll have to look that up. I was going to break it with a steak.

 

[DaveXA]

Thanks, I'll have to look that up. I was going to break it with a steak.

Breaking a fast with a steak seems like a recipe for pain. It's been a while but I broke a 3 day fast with a loaded hot dog and...never again, lol. I would think anything over 2 days break a fast with light foods that won't stress your digestive system too much. I would start with something simple before working meats back into the rotation a couple of days later.

That said, some here may have better suggestions.

 

[Tapxe]

Breaking a fast with a steak seems like a recipe for pain. It's been a while but I broke a 3 day fast with a loaded hot dog and...never again, lol. I would think anything over 2 days break a fast with light foods that won't stress your digestive system too much. I would start with something simple before working meats back into the rotation a couple of days later.

That said, some here may have better suggestions.

I've not broken with a steak, but I'd not recommend it. Broths, soups, and fruit or veg seem to be the easiest.

I can unequivocally state Popeye's spicy should not be used to break a 2+ day fast, unless you are into level's of gastro pain and distress which makes satan jealous of their capability.

 

[SaintInBucLand]

I've not broken with a steak, but I'd not recommend it. Broths, soups, and fruit or veg seem to be the easiest.

I can unequivocally state Popeye's spicy should not be used to break a 2+ day fast, unless you are into level's of gastro pain and distress which makes satan jealous of their capability.

I always break long fasts with some scrambled eggs and bone broth soup. Then for my next meal later that day or the next I will have more dense protein like a steak or salmon.

 

[Tapxe]

Let them sprout. Then cook them. They’ll taste better and they’ll be far less toxic.

Did some research and it's confusing at best. I've found a study by the NIH which discusses white kidney beans, but not red. Conflicting statements from what I'd consider unreliable sources alternate between sprouts themselves are full of liver damaging toxin and it's fine so long as you cook em.

I think I'll try to sprout some, but will still make sure to cook em right. I suspect the soak itself needed to sprout beans takes away the bulk and the sprout process will break down even further. Still tho, the legit articles I found said it'll take days of sprouting and still up to 50% of the lectin remains.

I do want to try it tho as it seems it can work with the taste and texture of the bean giving it more flare than standard.

 

[mjcouvi]

Did some research and it's confusing at best. I've found a study by the NIH which discusses white kidney beans, but not red. Conflicting statements from what I'd consider unreliable sources alternate between sprouts themselves are full of liver damaging toxin and it's fine so long as you cook em.

I think I'll try to sprout some, but will still make sure to cook em right. I suspect the soak itself needed to sprout beans takes away the bulk and the sprout process will break down even further. Still tho, the legit articles I found said it'll take days of sprouting and still up to 50% of the lectin remains.

I do want to try it tho as it seems it can work with the taste and texture of the bean giving it more flare than standard.

So much conflicting info, hard to navigate for sure

 

[SaintInBucLand]

So much conflicting info, hard to navigate for sure

You gotta be careful too... you watch too many youtube influencers and read too many studies you will start to believe that humans shouldn't eat anything at all. I have found the most health and happiness by eating things that are natural and don't come in a bag or box 90% of the time, but will indulge here and there. But as long as I am eating clean and avoiding highly processed foods it has done me wonders.

 

[saintmdterps]

Welp, back on the 18/6 fast. The holiday pounds are not coming off easily, which is another reason I hate winter. I'd like to get back to 175 by April. According to the scale at work (it's a wheelchair scale they use to weigh the patients, and runs a few pounds heavy) I'm 193 fully clothed. Ugh.

I just started using the Simple app, so I'm wondering if any of you have experience with it?

 

[Snakehead]

Welp, back on the 18/6 fast. The holiday pounds are not coming off easily, which is another reason I hate winter. I'd like to get back to 175 by April. According to the scale at work (it's a wheelchair scale they use to weigh the patients, and runs a few pounds heavy) I'm 193 fully clothed. Ugh.

I just started using the Simple app, so I'm wondering if any of you have experience with it?

You got this. I was at ~268 in December when my Doctor told me about my liver. I was down to 253/254 on 6 Jan when we left for the Philippines and maintained that for the 3 weeks there. After we got back on 26 Jan, I slowly trended down to 243.4-243.6 which has been the case for about 4-5 days straight, including this morning. I don't have a goal weight, but I haven't been 205 in about 20 years and I was in the 220-230 range for my 30s, but most of that was muscle mass. I think my goal is somewhere less than 220 which would allow me to carry some muscle mass, but get rid of the fat around my abdomen. In my daily 16/8 now and will probably attempt my first 48 hour fast starting tomorrow (last meal tonight).